Which company or individual can sponsor me on a summer trip to Europe?

[E.S. Rosenberg]

Re:all
//Taking flamebait... after a crazy topic lets have a crazy flamewar on
Israeli politics because we have nothing better to do with our lives.


2014-07-06 7:48 GMT+03:00 geoffrey mendelson <geoffreymendelson at gmail.com>:

>
>  But your, Geoff, incendiary remarks re RMS, are quite out of place. RMS'
> laudable stance on BDS is quite irrelevant to this list, in my opinion.
>
> I hope that was sarcastic, because his stance is that of a coward.
That said almost anyone with some "Sechel Yashar" knows RMS is bat shit
crazy (just like the BDS movement but that's OT).
Yes, he was part of the start of a great movement and for that we need to
be grateful but we don't need to listen to every word he has to say, if we
did most of the people on this list would probably have to stop using a
considerable amount of their daily digital conveniences.

Flame away,
Eliyahu - אליהו

>
> Incendiary or not, his actions did have an effect upon the FOSS community.
>
> Besides any direct effect in relation to RMS , the FSS and project GNU,
> which is debatable, it caused Larry Ellison, who is a big supporter of
> Israel in general and Sderot in particular to look elsewhere for his open
> source aspirations.
>
> By the time Oracle bought SUN, Solaris had become almost another Linux
> distro. It included the SUN UNIX Kernel, and a lot of SUN proprietary
> stuff, but more than half of it was project GNU software. You could see
> that the intention was to replace the UNIX code with the GNU alternatives.
> SUN also released a copy of their UNIX code as open source, but not under
> GNU for legal reasons (most of it was already under BSD license).
>
> So Oracle dropped the open source Solaris version, it still exists, but
> there is very little interest or support for it, and the GNU code is slowly
> being replaced with non open source UNIX code or BSD code.
>
> BUT the biggest effect was that Open Office, which was supposed to be
> given to the FSF to help them replace their editor with something useful,
> never happened.
>
> Instead it went to the Apache Foundation and has been released under their
> BSDish license.
>
> So Marc, his actions may have been laudable or not, and my comments may
> have been incendiary or not, but in the end it means that we are even more
> so stuck with that f'ing editor. :-(
>
> Geoff.
>
> --
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> Jerusalem Israel.
>
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