Bezeq Ruter
Amichai Rotman
amichai at iglu.org.il
Mon Apr 13 23:53:46 IDT 2015
Thank you all.
I guess that is what I'll do. I'll configure my existing router as a bridge
and buy this one for the rest:
http://goo.gl/ZPjdKZ
Amichai.
2015-04-13 10:05 GMT+03:00 <matanya at foss.co.il>:
> Use this list for modems and routers available in the free market:
> http://www.netcheif.com/Articles/VDSL_Router/VDSL_Router.htm
>
> In addition, I would like to second what E.S. Rosenberg said, I think you
> can still get this one:
> http://www.bezeq.co.il/media/Products/Wireless_Support/pdf/vdsl_1.pdf
>
> They even have a guide in their site how to configure it as bridge:
> http://www.bezeq.co.il/media/Products/Wireless_Support/pdf/vdsl_bridge.pdf
>
> after you get this in place, a good, open wrt supported router is just
> easy as pie and very powerful.
>
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> > 3. Re: Bezeq Ruter (E.S. Rosenberg)
> > 4. Re: Bezeq Ruter (Geoff Shang)
> > 5. Re: Bezeq Ruter (E.S. Rosenberg)
> > 6. Re: Bezeq Ruter (Amos Shapira)
> > 7. Re: Bezeq Ruter (Moish)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:17:12 +0300
> > From: Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il>
> > To: Linux-IL <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> > Subject: Bezeq Ruter
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> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have a Netgear 2200v2_64 router I got from Bezeq about two years ago.
> >
> > I finished paying for it and I don't like the idea it uns Bezeq's
> firmware.
> >
> > I want to flash an open source firmware on it, but I can't figure out
> where
> > to get it. it seems this specific model is manufactured especially for
> > Bezeq, since it isn't on the list of models on Netgear's site.
> >
> > Can anyone point me to a guide to downloading and flashing an open source
> > firmware suitable for this model or, on the other hand, recommend an
> > inexpensive replacement that runs open source firmware?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Amichai
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 22:55:44 +0300
> > From: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>
> > To: Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il>
> > Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter
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> > Have you tried here:
> > http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dgn2200
> >
> > 2015-04-12 22:17 GMT+03:00 Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il>:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I have a Netgear 2200v2_64 router I got from Bezeq about two years ago.
> >>
> >> I finished paying for it and I don't like the idea it uns Bezeq's
> firmware.
> >>
> >> I want to flash an open source firmware on it, but I can't figure out
> where
> >> to get it. it seems this specific model is manufactured especially for
> >> Bezeq, since it isn't on the list of models on Netgear's site.
> >>
> >> Can anyone point me to a guide to downloading and flashing an open
> source
> >> firmware suitable for this model or, on the other hand, recommend an
> >> inexpensive replacement that runs open source firmware?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>
> >> Amichai
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Linux-il mailing list
> >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
> >
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> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 23:10:41 +0300
> > From: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>
> > To: Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il>
> > Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAHTx_BMR_jiD38aqOxRE6XLx3-GmsmUvw1d7rKcE_J-FtbeDrQ at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > v2 may not be supported...
> >
> > Personally I always insist on Bezeq giving me their simple modem and
> > use a decent router of my choosing (obviously vetted for OpenWRT
> > support and specs) for WiFi etc (the modem ends up being a bridge
> > device about whose fw etc I don't care as much).
> >
> > 2015-04-12 22:55 GMT+03:00 E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>:
> >
> >> Have you tried here:
> >> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/netgear/dgn2200
> >>
> >> 2015-04-12 22:17 GMT+03:00 Amichai Rotman <amichai at iglu.org.il>:
> >>> Hello all,
> >>>
> >>> I have a Netgear 2200v2_64 router I got from Bezeq about two years ago.
> >>>
> >>> I finished paying for it and I don't like the idea it uns Bezeq's
> firmware.
> >>>
> >>> I want to flash an open source firmware on it, but I can't figure out
> where
> >>> to get it. it seems this specific model is manufactured especially for
> >>> Bezeq, since it isn't on the list of models on Netgear's site.
> >>>
> >>> Can anyone point me to a guide to downloading and flashing an open
> source
> >>> firmware suitable for this model or, on the other hand, recommend an
> >>> inexpensive replacement that runs open source firmware?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Amichai
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Linux-il mailing list
> >>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 23:15:55 +0300 (IDT)
> > From: Geoff Shang <geoff at QuiteLikely.com>
> > To: Linux-IL <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter
> > Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1504122314420.3037 at voldemort.home>
> > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> >
> > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> >
> >> Personally I always insist on Bezeq giving me their simple modem and
> >> use a decent router of my choosing (obviously vetted for OpenWRT
> >> support and specs) for WiFi etc (the modem ends up being a bridge
> >> device about whose fw etc I don't care as much).
> >
> > Ha! I didn't know you could do this. Typical that I find out 6 weeks
> > before I leave the country. :)
> >
> > for the benefit of anyone else who didn't know, please tel more.
> >
> > Geoff.
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:18:15 +0300
> > From: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>
> > To: Geoff Shang <geoff at quitelikely.com>
> > Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAHTx_BMawyntPByEd0tBK6bh4ZBpJV3P1A=_CPt4xzOeizgmNg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
> >
> > In addition to the "fancy" (read crappy) wireless routers that Bezeq
> > will always try to offer you to lease/buy/get/whatever the latest fad
> > is, they also have simple modems.
> > Really these are bridge routers with one ethernet port and one DSL
> > port, also running Linux, you can use them as router and create a DMZ
> > between your wireless router and the bridge, though I don't recommend
> > that because then you:
> > - can't just drop in a replacement when they break down
> > - are relying on the bridges' firmware for security on your DMZ
> >
> > They have currently 2 models as far as I can tell:
> > - (Rotal) RTA 1320+
> > - D-Link DSL-25xx (newer, haven't seen very often)
> >
> > Bezeq does not like giving these devices out most likely because it
> > prevents them from having a Bezeq_free network at your address, the
> > last time I had to replace my modem they told me that they actually
> > repair them and aren't making/buying new ones (which makes sense for
> > the rta1320 which is old but supports up to 24M).
> > The fact that they are repairing does seem to be starting to lead to
> > failures happing more often recently...
> > It also prevents them from trouble shooting your network since the
> > most they will have access to is the bridge whereas they generally
> > have remote access to the wireless-routers (you often don't even get
> > full root/admin on the router).
> >
> > To me using these devices only has advantages:
> > - cost less then the "fancy" modem/routers.
> > - allows me full control over my network infrastructure.
> > - no Bezeq network freeloading on my DSL connection
> > - no Bezeq access to my home network
> > - allows me to easily upgrade my wireless router if/when I want some
> > newer technology/toy.
> >
> > BTW: It is of course also possible to use a Bezeq wireless router
> > together with your own wireless router either in a DMZ like setup or
> > even as a bridge (though that takes some real effort), but that seems
> > like a major overkill and a waste of money.....
> >
> > HTH,
> > Eliyahu - ?????
> >
> > 2015-04-12 23:15 GMT+03:00 Geoff Shang <geoff at quitelikely.com>:
> >
> >> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> >>
> >>> Personally I always insist on Bezeq giving me their simple modem and
> >>> use a decent router of my choosing (obviously vetted for OpenWRT
> >>> support and specs) for WiFi etc (the modem ends up being a bridge
> >>> device about whose fw etc I don't care as much).
> >>
> >> Ha! I didn't know you could do this. Typical that I find out 6 weeks
> >> before I leave the country. :)
> >>
> >> for the benefit of anyone else who didn't know, please tel more.
> >>
> >> Geoff.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 16:29:07 +1000
> > From: Amos Shapira <amos.shapira at gmail.com>
> > To: "E.S. Rosenberg" <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>
> > Cc: Linux-IL <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> > Subject: Re: Bezeq Ruter
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAF9n_WVxjs65XgD18Dw7jhwSVr2jPuMvg00wRL05rzsm-gtodg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I wonder - do you have to get the modem from Bezeq? Can't you buy
> anything
> > compatible on the free market?
> >
> > On 13 April 2015 at 16:18, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>
> wrote:
> >
> >> In addition to the "fancy" (read crappy) wireless routers that Bezeq
> >> will always try to offer you to lease/buy/get/whatever the latest fad
> >> is, they also have simple modems.
> >> Really these are bridge routers with one ethernet port and one DSL
> >> port, also running Linux, you can use them as router and create a DMZ
> >> between your wireless router and the bridge, though I don't recommend
> >> that because then you:
> >> - can't just drop in a replacement when they break down
> >> - are relying on the bridges' firmware for security on your DMZ
> >>
> >> They have currently 2 models as far as I can tell:
> >> - (Rotal) RTA 1320+
> >> - D-Link DSL-25xx (newer, haven't seen very often)
> >>
> >> Bezeq does not like giving these devices out most likely because it
> >> prevents them from having a Bezeq_free network at your address, the
> >> last time I had to replace my modem they told me that they actually
> >> repair them and aren't making/buying new ones (which makes sense for
> >> the rta1320 which is old but supports up to 24M).
> >> The fact that they are repairing does seem to be starting to lead to
> >> failures happing more often recently...
> >> It also prevents them from trouble shooting your network since the
> >> most they will have access to is the bridge whereas they generally
> >> have remote access to the wireless-routers (you often don't even get
> >> full root/admin on the router).
> >>
> >> To me using these devices only has advantages:
> >> - cost less then the "fancy" modem/routers.
> >> - allows me full control over my network infrastructure.
> >> - no Bezeq network freeloading on my DSL connection
> >> - no Bezeq access to my home network
> >> - allows me to easily upgrade my wireless router if/when I want some
> >> newer technology/toy.
> >>
> >> BTW: It is of course also possible to use a Bezeq wireless router
> >> together with your own wireless router either in a DMZ like setup or
> >> even as a bridge (though that takes some real effort), but that seems
> >> like a major overkill and a waste of money.....
> >>
> >> HTH,
> >> Eliyahu - ?????
> >>
> >> 2015-04-12 23:15 GMT+03:00 Geoff Shang <geoff at quitelikely.com>:
> >>> On Sun, 12 Apr 2015, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Personally I always insist on Bezeq giving me their simple modem and
> >>>> use a decent router of my choosing (obviously vetted for OpenWRT
> >>>> support and specs) for WiFi etc (the modem ends up being a bridge
> >>>> device about whose fw etc I don't care as much).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Ha! I didn't know you could do this. Typical that I find out 6 weeks
> >>> before I leave the country. :)
> >>>
> >>> for the benefit of anyone else who didn't know, please tel more.
> >>>
> >>> Geoff.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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