ISP with native ipv6 in isarael

[Evgeniy Ginzburg]

Thank you for another valuable piece of information.

BR, Evgeniy.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 7:52 PM, E.S. Rosenberg <esr+linux-il at g.jct.ac.il>
wrote:

> Triple C may also support IPv6, when they started I used them, my
> experience with them was very positive.
> Very knowledgeable support people etc.
> The only reason I'm not with them still is that the other people who
> use the link demanded Rimon for their filtering prowess.
> HTH,
> Eliyahu - אליהו
>
> 2016-01-12 19:18 GMT+02:00 Shachar Shemesh <shachar at shemesh.biz>:
> > On 12/01/16 18:05, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote:
> >
> > Thank you. Will try.
> >
> > I did try.
> >
> > On the plus side: They give you a real address. In fact, they give you
> 2^64
> > real addresses. Bear in mind, however, that they do not give you a fixed
> > address. You will get a different address range every time you connect.
> When
> > I asked, a fixed IPv6 address range costed as much as a fixed IPv4, which
> > makes zero sense, but there you have it.
> >
> > To my surprise, this worked rather well. Whenever the router (I was using
> > openwrt) reconnected, it somehow managed to provoke all the clients to
> get a
> > new address. The clients did not give up the old addresses, so
> connections
> > inside the network were not disconnected due to this change. I guess this
> > means you cannot connect P2P to another client that resides on an address
> > you have ever owned, but that seems a minor problem.
> >
> > Down sides:
> > You are still going to be using NAT. Since the IPv6 support in Israel is
> > virtually non-existent, which means you will be using your IPv4 address
> > quite a lot. You only get one of those.
> >
> > I hope you realize that having NAT means that outside elements don't know
> > which precise machine inside your network they are talking to. It seems,
> > from your question, that you consider this a good thing, but I wanted to
> > make sure you are aware of it.
> >
> > Their supports leaves something to be desired. Very long waiting times,
> it
> > may take them 48 hours to call you back if you decide not to wait, and
> most
> > of their technicians don't know how to configure IPv6. Some don't even
> know
> > it exists. I will qualify this point by saying I was their customer,
> > briefly, soon after their launch. It is possible this point has, since,
> > improved.
> >
> > In the end, when an upgrade to 40Mb/s left me without internet for a week
> > pending a (failed) attempt to diagnose it, including an X-Fone technician
> > sending me to the modem's maker to get a firmware upgrade he said might
> > help, and that maker brushing me off (it was the modem they were
> subsidizing
> > for me, so I did hold them partially responsible), I decided that enough
> was
> > enough, and went to Nezeq for a few months. I'm now on Cellcom triple.
> >
> > It is also worth noting that on Cellcom triple, the technician is
> mandatory
> > (and costs around 300nis). He had to work quite hard to get their modem
> to
> > sync in VDSL, going to the floor Bezeq switch several times. After he
> left,
> > I connected my modem and it synced, so it's obvious that the problem was,
> > indeed, a physical problem with my house's infrastructure. Still, a week
> > without internet is too long.
> >
> > Bottom line, now that I know VDSL works, I might give them another go,
> once
> > they offer a phone as well. For the time being, I'm happy with where I am
> > (I've only moved a week ago).
> >
> > Shachar
> >
> > On Jan 12, 2016 15:59, "Yuval Adam" <yuval at y3xz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 018 Xphone
> >> AFAIK they are the only ISP that supports native ipv6 on non-commercial
> >> uplinks
> >>
> >>
> >> On 01/12/2016 03:57 PM, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote:
> >> > Hi all.
> >> > Do we have one or two??
> >> > Want to get rid of NAT (partially).
> >> >
> >> > BR, Evgeniy.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > So long, and thanks for all the fish.
> >> >
> >> >
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