vdsl2 router

[E.S. Rosenberg]

re:all

2016-03-08 2:36 GMT+02:00 E.S. Rosenberg <esr at g.jct.ac.il>:
> 2016-03-08 1:45 GMT+02:00 geoffrey mendelson <geoffreymendelson at gmail.com>:
>> On 3/8/2016 1:07 AM, E.S. Rosenberg wrote:
>>>
>>> Personally I don't bother with the modem/router supporting OpenWRT, I
>>> bought a nice TP-Link router which functions as the router of my
>>> networks and runs OpenWRT then the provider router/bridge/whatever box
>>> is just used as a bridge device and nothing more.
>>
>>
>> Would you please post a direct link to where you bought it, and the exact
>> model. I asked about six months ago for a recommendation and in the end
>> could not figure out which was the exact model I needed, and did not want to
>> spend a couple of hundred NIS (I need two) to buy paperweights. :-)
> I have at different locations the WR740N (v4.23 iirc), WR841ND (v5.x
> iirc?) and WR1043ND (v1.x) and am extremely satisfied with all of
> them, note none of these devices support the 5GHz band but since I
> don't suffer from lot's of interference from neighbors and the 'big'
> consumers (laptops) anyhow don't support the 5GHz band either I
> haven't bothered getting a newer router as of yet.
>
> All these devices are available through both KSP and Ivory (and I'm
> pretty sure Bug also carries TP-Link).
>
> If your main use is wireless and you don't need very high speeds the
> WR740N is extremely high value for money since it also has pretty
> advanced features if you open it up (voiding warranty), I actually use
> 2 740s in a very large house to provide the whole house with coverage
> instead of bothering with one much stronger but much more expensive
> device.
>
> If you also want gigabit Ethernet the 1043 is the only option from the
> devices I mentioned, however there are plenty of other well supported
> TP-Link devices that also have Gigabit ethernet available here.
> In the past (4-5 years ago) I have managed to brick a 841 which I
> still have sitting on a shelve waiting for me to hook it up to a
> console and reflash it (at the time I was mucking around with flashing
> from CLI and modifying individual byte ranges manually and I used the
> bricking as the perfect excuse to get a 1043), but the other 841 I
> have is running perfectly fine.
>
> When I want to buy a new router I basically go through what is
> available and what is known about the hardware & support on
> OpernWRT.org and try to get the best value/NIS ratio, things to look
> for (other then connectivity details) are decent size RAM (at least
> 32MiB) and preferably also a larger ROM size so you can install the
> more expansive versions of OpenWRT....
>
> Of the newer dual-band routers (the Archers C*) some devices seem to
> have good support but you'll have to check when you are deciding what
> to get....
>
>>
>>> There are far less xDSL devices that support *WRT and also you never
>>> know if the device you'll get from your provider is under your full
>>> control (these days with 2/3-play packages the router tends to not be
>>> under your control since it also does your VoIP/TV) so as far as I am
>>> concerned the provider-device is 'outside' my network and should be
>>> treated as such....
>>>
>>> Also the provider devices tend to have terrible firmware/updates which
>>> of course you want to salvage with *WRT.
>>>
>> I have a Cell-Com TV router. It is not the version with a VoIP interface, it
>> is for their "double play" service. It came with a decent user interface. I
>> got the admin name and password via their on-line support chat via their
>> website (in Hebrew). I had to do the usual ID number and credit card digits
>> verification.
>>
>> This was to open a port so that I could open a port on the router I have
>> bridging them to my network. It has a DMZ option, but I don't use it. The
>> port has stayed open since I changed it.
> Since the provider often has a was to access the device even if you
> have Admin access (very nice of them they allowed you, I know other
> devices where they make port forwarding available through the user
> interface and Admin is strictly them) and you also have nonsense like
> Bezeq_free lurking around afaik the provider device is not 'inside' my
> network.
>
>>
>> Note to prospective Cell-Com TV users, their router and connection work
>> fine, however before we had it, we had a gamer's package with Netvision.
>> This did some QOS tweaks to our connection at their end which improved
>> on-line gaming. The Cell-Com TV is QOS tweaked at their end for their
>> service, so we lost the gamer's package. It only really affects us during
>> the evening hours and all day Friday and Saturday.
>>
>> The Cell-Com TV boxes are on the wifi network on their router, and nothing
>> else is.
> What do you mean by this, you have no WiFi enabled devices except for
> the TV decoders? is the WiFi network isolated from your wired network?
>
>>
>> I also have a line with CCC on our network, I use the CCC line, my wife and
>> sons use the Cell-Com. We share DNS, mail, etc servers which split across
>> them.
> My experience with CCC is very positive, only reason I'm not using
> them is I live with people who demand Rimon.
>
> As a closing note: I have replaced provider devices very often due to
> device failure while the TP-Links continue to function without issue
> (definitely during the period that Bezeq still provided modems but was
> not buying new ones so you got refurbished devices that failed often).
>
> HTH,
> Eliyahu - אליהו
>>
>> Geoff.
>>
>> --
>> Geoffrey S. Mendelson 4X1GM/N3OWJ
>> Jerusalem Israel.
>>