From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 14:14:18 2021 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2021 14:14:18 +0200 Subject: problem mounting a share Message-ID: <20210103141418.58695d0d@shlomo1.solomon> I have a samba share on a Raspberry PI I can map it to a Windows 10 computer (and the PI does not ask for a password - as intended since this is a home network for the family). If I mount it on my Kubuntu machines, I DO need a password when mounting manually with: sudo mount //pi/PI-PUBLIC /mnt/PI-PUBLIC -o user,rw,username=MYUSER,password=PSWD or in fstab //pi/PI-PUBLIC /mnt/PI-PUBLIC cifs user,username=MYUSER,password=PSWD 0 0 After mounting with either of the above, all files "seem" to be owned by root, even though that is not true. And obviously I cannot update or delete files. If I do smb://solomon at pi/PI-PUBLIC/ in Dolpin file manager, I'm also asked for a password, but then something strange happens. I CAN read and write files, but Dolphin does not show any permissions. And finally, the only solution that DOES work "correctly" in Dolphin is: fish://pi/media/PUBLIC/ BUT, I do have one "serious problem" with not being able to properly mount the share. Libreoffice and KIO slave do not "play well together" - a known issue - so the fish:// solution does not work. What am I missing here? I know using samba to communicate between a PI and Kubuntu is not the best way, but in the past, it did work for me and I don't know what I screwed up. smb.conf on the PI has not changed for MANY years, but I have done countless changes, updates and upgrades to the Kubuntu (and before that Mandriva) machines. -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Claws Mail 3.17.5 - KDE Plasma 5.18.5 - Kubuntu 20.04 From borissh1983 at gmail.com Sun Jan 3 17:41:33 2021 From: borissh1983 at gmail.com (borissh1983 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 03 Jan 2021 17:41:33 +0200 Subject: problem mounting a share References: <20210103141418.58695d0d@shlomo1.solomon> Message-ID: <12734240.uLZWGnKmhe@beast> Hi Shlomo , Please Remember that smb has a different model of perms that Gnu/Linux, so does the uid assigned by the OS - in fact if you will try to assign Windows permissions to a Samba share you are guaranteed to have a bad time. I found that the best practise when doing smb/cifs share (even windows to windows) is ALWAYS have a password. When you share between a pi and Gnu/Linux machines , sometimes it is easier to just use sshfs and nfs to share data than using SMB. On Sunday, 3 January 2021 14:14:18 IST Shlomo Solomon wrote: > After mounting with either of the above, all files "seem" to be owned > by root, even though that is not true. And obviously I cannot update or > delete files. > By default when you mount cifs you would get that ,you can force a local user to mount with. use the uid argument with mount. example : sudo mount -t cifs //pi/shared_with_username /media/MYUSER/rpi -o uid=1000,user=MYUSER,pass=PSWD remember to mount it on a folder that your user have read/write permissions on it. > If I do smb://solomon at pi/PI-PUBLIC/ in Dolpin file manager, I'm also > asked for a password, but then something strange happens. I CAN read > and write files, but Dolphin does not show any permissions. > It could be that you have both guest AND authentication setup in samba (which might trigger such issue). Would it be possible to share your smb conf please ? Would it be possible to open traces from your client machine so we could help you debug this issue ? > And finally, the only solution that DOES work "correctly" in Dolphin is: > fish://pi/media/PUBLIC/ > > BUT, I do have one "serious problem" with not being able to properly > mount the share. Libreoffice and KIO slave do not "play well together" > - a known issue - so the fish:// solution does not work. > > What am I missing here? I know using samba to communicate between a PI > and Kubuntu is not the best way, but in the past, it did work for me > and I don't know what I screwed up. smb.conf on the PI has not changed > for MANY years, but I have done countless changes, updates and upgrades > to the Kubuntu (and before that Mandriva) machines. > From w1 at zak.co.il Fri Jan 8 10:39:39 2021 From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2021 10:39:39 +0200 Subject: FAX Modems? Message-ID: I am one of the holdouts who still use FAX technology. My printer was of the type which combines printing + scanning + FAX. A week ago it died, and I looked for a new printer with the same combination of features. Turned out that there is a shortage of printers, so I bought a printer with scanner but without FAX. And now I am looking for a solution to continue to receive FAX messages on my landline phone line. I have some questions: 1. If you work at an organization (or own it) which still uses FAX technology, which solution/s does your organization use? 2. What model of FAX modem would you recommend? 3. What FAX software do you use under Linux, if any? Thanks, Keep healthy, --- Omer Zak -- "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. Williams My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 11:20:27 2021 From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (Geoffrey Mendelson) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 11:20:27 +0200 Subject: FAX Modems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <166431e6-e7ef-41a8-acbe-f3fc7ef03f57@Spark> This is a frequent topic of discussion on Anglo facebook groups because olim arrive here and can not understand that faxes are still used here. The most common answer is to use an app on a smartphone or a web site. Both upload your document to a central server and fax from there. I wont even touch on the security or privacy issues. We have an actual scanner/printer/fax. My wife uses it the most, she scans a document so she has a backup copy and then uses the windows fax program that came with the device. I used to use a linux server with Hylafax and a serial modem and then upgraded the modem to a USB fax modem I bought from eBay. I dont know if either USB modems or hylafax is still available. Geoff -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel On Jan 8, 2021, 10:40 AM +0200, Omer Zak , wrote: > I am one of the holdouts who still use FAX technology. > My printer was of the type which combines printing + scanning + FAX. A > week ago it died, and I looked for a new printer with the same > combination of features. > Turned out that there is a shortage of > printers, so I bought a printer with scanner but without FAX. > > And now I am looking for a solution to continue to receive FAX messages > on my landline phone line. > > I have some questions: > 1. If you work at an organization (or own it) which still uses FAX > technology, which solution/s does your organization use? > 2. What model of FAX modem would you recommend? > 3. What FAX software do you use under Linux, if any? > > Thanks, > Keep healthy, > --- Omer Zak > > > > -- > "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by > looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it > possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. > Williams > My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ > > My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. > They do not represent the official policy of any organization with > which I may be affiliated in any way. > WARNING TO SPAMMERS: at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rabin at rabin.io Sat Jan 9 19:07:15 2021 From: rabin at rabin.io (Rabin Yasharzadehe) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 19:07:15 +0200 Subject: FAX Modems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At my work place there is a fax server which was installed over 10 years ago based on HylaFax and uses an old US Robotics 56K modem. (which has the old 25 pin header connected via adapter to the server) We use is only for receiving fax (local Fax2Mail service) -- Rabin On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 10:40, Omer Zak wrote: > I am one of the holdouts who still use FAX technology. > My printer was of the type which combines printing + scanning + FAX. A > week ago it died, and I looked for a new printer with the same > combination of features. > Turned out that there is a shortage of > printers, so I bought a printer with scanner but without FAX. > > And now I am looking for a solution to continue to receive FAX messages > on my landline phone line. > > I have some questions: > 1. If you work at an organization (or own it) which still uses FAX > technology, which solution/s does your organization use? > 2. What model of FAX modem would you recommend? > 3. 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URL: From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com Sat Jan 9 19:52:06 2021 From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (Geoffrey Mendelson) Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 19:52:06 +0200 Subject: FAX Modems? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Around 2002 when I first got a cable modem, I set up a pentium 133 running linux as a mail server, dns server, dhcp server, etc for my local network. I attached a modem to it and set up a hylafax server. I just looked at the current system that runs the same things, and I dont think I have a modem connected to it, and if there is one hidden in the back, I know for sure it does not have a phone line connected to it, but it still runs hylafax. :-) Geoff -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel On Jan 9, 2021, 7:08 PM +0200, Rabin Yasharzadehe , wrote: > At my work place there is a fax server which was installed over 10 years ago > based on HylaFax and uses an old US Robotics 56K modem. > (which has the old 25 pin header connected via adapter to the server) > > We use is only for receiving fax (local Fax2Mail service) > > > -- > Rabin > > > > On Fri, 8 Jan 2021 at 10:40, Omer Zak wrote: > > > I am one of the holdouts who still use FAX technology. > > > My printer was of the type which combines printing + scanning + FAX. A > > > week ago it died, and I looked for a new printer with the same > > > combination of features. > > > Turned out that there is a shortage of > > > printers, so I bought a printer with scanner but without FAX. > > > > > > And now I am looking for a solution to continue to receive FAX messages > > > on my landline phone line. > > > > > > I have some questions: > > > 1. If you work at an organization (or own it) which still uses FAX > > > technology, which solution/s does your organization use? > > > 2. What model of FAX modem would you recommend? > > > 3. What FAX software do you use under Linux, if any? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Keep healthy, > > > --- Omer Zak > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by > > > looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it > > > possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. > > > Williams > > > My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ > > > > > > My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. > > > They do not represent the official policy of any organization with > > > which I may be affiliated in any way. > > > WARNING TO SPAMMERS:? at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Linux-il mailing list > > > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > > > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel On Jan 10, 2021, 8:39 AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh , wrote: > > I -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoffreymendelson at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 10:09:47 2021 From: geoffreymendelson at gmail.com (Geoffrey Mendelson) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2021 10:09:47 +0200 Subject: FAX Modems? In-Reply-To: <9dc81cc4-4e0c-e42c-a58d-3a9c11735de1@shemesh.biz> References: <9dc81cc4-4e0c-e42c-a58d-3a9c11735de1@shemesh.biz> Message-ID: <00f7841a-5baf-43ea-9290-b92928e9c81b@Spark> I did some research. USB modems use the?Conexant (now owned by Rockwell) chipset. The drivers are propietary. There used to be freeware reverse engineered drivers and the other option was to use Dell windows drivers using the windows driver compatability package. They may not be compatible with the current kernels. There also is a commercial linux driver, a license sells for $20. You can buy the source version and compile it yourself, one person did it on a raspberry pi with a slight mod. The other viable option is to buy a used rs232 fax modem and an FTDI usb to rs232 converter if your computer does not have an rs232 port. Asterisk had a voip to fax driver, but I never was able to get it to work, it may still be available and useable, I dont know. A third option would be to scan facebook marketplace, yad2, or agora for a multifunction scanner, printer, fax with a broken printer or scanner that has the apporopriate linux drivers and just use it as a modem. Geoff -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel On Jan 10, 2021, 8:39 AM +0200, Shachar Shemesh , wrote: > > On 08/01/2021 10:39, Omer Zak wrote: > > I am one of the holdouts who still use FAX technology. > > My printer was of the type which combines printing + scanning + FAX. A > > week ago it died, and I looked for a new printer with the same > > combination of features. > > Turned out that there is a shortage of > > printers, so I bought a printer with scanner but without FAX. > > > > And now I am looking for a solution to continue to receive FAX messages > > on my landline phone line. > The software of yore should still work. The tricky part is getting the correct hardware and drivers. > I quick search found several USB modems sold today, but most only list Windows as their compatibility, and it's impossible to know whether that means they are WinModems (zero nostalgia) or just lazy. > I did, however, find this: > https://www.amazon.com/V-TOP-External-V-92-Modem-Cable/dp/B00XW5QYWS/ref=psdc_284715_t4_B07H3Q74L8 > It lists Mac in it's title, but the actual text also explicitly lists Linux as a supported platform. It might, theoretically, still be a WinModem with (proprietary) drivers, but considering the cost of hardware (a 56Kbps modem can _easily_ be created with a 5$ micrcontroller/dsp/FPGA), I find it more likely that this is a full fledged hardware modem. > With that in mind, I recently bought a Canon integrated printer, and it came with fax capabilities. I'm just about to cancel my "land line", so this feature is increasingly becoming useless for me, personally, but know that it's still out there. > Shachar > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: