From linux.il at gmail.com  Tue May  4 13:07:25 2021
From: linux.il at gmail.com (linux.il)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 13:07:25 +0300
Subject: Weird 'free' output
Message-ID: <CANpTS00cRQbOGdErHxP4yEV_a83d5WDRjvMq4gjVrVodzP6nww@mail.gmail.com>

"Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something?
Any ideas?

TIA, Vitaly

free -m
              total        used        free      shared  buff/cache
available
Mem:          31654       29883         937           1         832
27675
Swap:             0           0           0
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From w1 at zak.co.il  Tue May  4 13:20:16 2021
From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2021 13:20:16 +0300
Subject: Weird 'free' output
In-Reply-To: <CANpTS00cRQbOGdErHxP4yEV_a83d5WDRjvMq4gjVrVodzP6nww@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANpTS00cRQbOGdErHxP4yEV_a83d5WDRjvMq4gjVrVodzP6nww@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <11e40d3a4997e0c6582d03e60bbafff3a97f20f3.camel@zak.co.il>

>From man free:

available
              Estimation of how much memory is available for starting
new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data provided  by
              the  cache  or free fields, this field takes into account
page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs will
              be reclaimed due to items being in use (MemAvailable in
/proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14,  emulated  on  kernels
              2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free)



On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote:
> "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something?
> Any ideas?
> 
> TIA, Vitaly
> 
> free -m
>               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache  
> available
> Mem:          31654       29883         937           1         832  
>     27675
> Swap:             0           0           0


-- 
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looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it
possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E.
Williams
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From linux.il at gmail.com  Tue May  4 14:47:46 2021
From: linux.il at gmail.com (linux.il)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 14:47:46 +0300
Subject: Weird 'free' output
In-Reply-To: <11e40d3a4997e0c6582d03e60bbafff3a97f20f3.camel@zak.co.il>
References: <CANpTS00cRQbOGdErHxP4yEV_a83d5WDRjvMq4gjVrVodzP6nww@mail.gmail.com>
 <11e40d3a4997e0c6582d03e60bbafff3a97f20f3.camel@zak.co.il>
Message-ID: <CANpTS03e-6dgKz5D-3xAihNqrHB_AYt8-APC59crq3sj0Wsqaw@mail.gmail.com>

Omer, thank you!
Is it related to the "Inactive" count from /proc/meminfo?
I used to think that available=free+cache+buffers...

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:

> From man free:
>
> available
>               Estimation of how much memory is available for starting
> new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data provided  by
>               the  cache  or free fields, this field takes into account
> page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs will
>               be reclaimed due to items being in use (MemAvailable in
> /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14,  emulated  on  kernels
>               2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free)
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote:
> > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something?
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > TIA, Vitaly
> >
> > free -m
> >               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache
> > available
> > Mem:          31654       29883         937           1         832
> >     27675
> > Swap:             0           0           0
>
>
> --
> "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by
> looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it
> possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E.
> Williams
> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/
>
> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with
> which I may be affiliated in any way.
> WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
>
>
>
>
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From ori at heliconbooks.com  Tue May  4 19:52:25 2021
From: ori at heliconbooks.com (Ori Idan)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 19:52:25 +0300
Subject: Weird 'free' output
In-Reply-To: <CANpTS03e-6dgKz5D-3xAihNqrHB_AYt8-APC59crq3sj0Wsqaw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANpTS00cRQbOGdErHxP4yEV_a83d5WDRjvMq4gjVrVodzP6nww@mail.gmail.com>
 <11e40d3a4997e0c6582d03e60bbafff3a97f20f3.camel@zak.co.il>
 <CANpTS03e-6dgKz5D-3xAihNqrHB_AYt8-APC59crq3sj0Wsqaw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACyhTRGyvk1aTEew+Zx=D0Bv26eEupj24DREOkiAYaBrcyKMfw@mail.gmail.com>

Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is why free
memory seems small.

-- 
Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
http://www.heliconbooks.com





On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:48 PM linux.il <linux.il at gmail.com> wrote:

> Omer, thank you!
> Is it related to the "Inactive" count from /proc/meminfo?
> I used to think that available=free+cache+buffers...
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:
>
>> From man free:
>>
>> available
>>               Estimation of how much memory is available for starting
>> new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data provided  by
>>               the  cache  or free fields, this field takes into account
>> page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs will
>>               be reclaimed due to items being in use (MemAvailable in
>> /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14,  emulated  on  kernels
>>               2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote:
>> > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something?
>> > Any ideas?
>> >
>> > TIA, Vitaly
>> >
>> > free -m
>> >               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache
>> > available
>> > Mem:          31654       29883         937           1         832
>> >     27675
>> > Swap:             0           0           0
>>
>>
>> --
>> "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by
>> looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it
>> possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E.
>> Williams
>> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/
>>
>> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
>> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with
>> which I may be affiliated in any way.
>> WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
>>
>>
>>
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From borissh1983 at gmail.com  Tue May  4 21:12:02 2021
From: borissh1983 at gmail.com (borissh1983 at gmail.com)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2021 21:12:02 +0300
Subject: odd alert nvme error "The transport type is not indicated or the
 error is not transport related"
Message-ID: <2800799.20HHpn27oK@beast>

Hi, 

I'm struggling to get what could mean this odd "The transport type is not indicated or the error is not transport related" error inside nvme error-log which is filling my error log.
I also get smart warning of increasing num_err_log_entries , it look like it could correspond to one error for each boot but I do not grasp what could that mean.

I don't see any noticeable problems for now other than this alert. 

output form error-log have errors like this  : 
sudo nvme error-log /dev/nvme0

................. 
Entry[63]    
................. 
error_count     : 0 
sqid            : 0 
cmdid           : 0 
status_field    : 0(SUCCESS: The command completed successfully) 
parm_err_loc    : 0 
lba             : 0 
nsid            : 0 
vs              : 0 
trtype          : The transport type is not indicated or the error is not transport related. 
cs              : 0 
trtype_spec_info: 0 
.................


This type of error is the same and fill each error entry.

my smart log for it is : 


sudo nvme smart-log /dev/nvme0      
Smart Log for NVME device:nvme0 namespace-id:ffffffff 
critical_warning                        : 0 
temperature                             : 41 C 
available_spare                         : 100% 
available_spare_threshold               : 10% 
percentage_used                         : 1% 
endurance group critical warning summary: 0 
data_units_read                         : 20,408,448 
data_units_written                      : 15,672,597 
host_read_commands                      : 165,820,725 
host_write_commands                     : 197,378,842 
controller_busy_time                    : 963 
power_cycles                            : 1,666 
power_on_hours                          : 1,865 
unsafe_shutdowns                        : 135 
media_errors                            : 0 
num_err_log_entries                     : 967 
Warning Temperature Time                : 0 
Critical Composite Temperature Time     : 0 
Temperature Sensor 1           : 41 C 
Temperature Sensor 2           : 59 C 
Thermal Management T1 Trans Count       : 0 
Thermal Management T2 Trans Count       : 0 
Thermal Management T1 Total Time        : 0 
Thermal Management T2 Total Time        : 0
sudo nvme list 
Node             SN                   Model                                    Namespace Usage                      Format           FW Rev   
---------------- -------------------- ---------------------------------------- --------- -------------------------- ---------------- -------- 
/dev/nvme0n1     XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX       SAMSUNG MZVLB512HAJQ-000L7               1         398.24  GB / 512.11  GB    512   B +  0 B   5L2QEXA7


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From ori at heliconbooks.com  Tue May  4 21:48:26 2021
From: ori at heliconbooks.com (Ori Idan)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 21:48:26 +0300
Subject: Weird 'free' output
In-Reply-To: <CALR4fE+tDnpsrXi3PR02PPU9T6oAwwPs-SEUCwzHLyUvA0+C-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANpTS00cRQbOGdErHxP4yEV_a83d5WDRjvMq4gjVrVodzP6nww@mail.gmail.com>
 <11e40d3a4997e0c6582d03e60bbafff3a97f20f3.camel@zak.co.il>
 <CANpTS03e-6dgKz5D-3xAihNqrHB_AYt8-APC59crq3sj0Wsqaw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACyhTRGyvk1aTEew+Zx=D0Bv26eEupj24DREOkiAYaBrcyKMfw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALR4fE+tDnpsrXi3PR02PPU9T6oAwwPs-SEUCwzHLyUvA0+C-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CACyhTRF7HV4gbGNVQ0XAz=WjHRNb0iSk0OwGaNQzL6iiL-DZRw@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem.

-- 
Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
http://www.heliconbooks.com





On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ori,
>
> You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe.
>
> Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list. This man is
> a stain on our community.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com> wrote:
>
>> Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is why free
>> memory seems small.
>>
>> --
>> Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
>> http://www.heliconbooks.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:48 PM linux.il <linux.il at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Omer, thank you!
>>> Is it related to the "Inactive" count from /proc/meminfo?
>>> I used to think that available=free+cache+buffers...
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From man free:
>>>>
>>>> available
>>>>               Estimation of how much memory is available for starting
>>>> new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data provided  by
>>>>               the  cache  or free fields, this field takes into account
>>>> page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs will
>>>>               be reclaimed due to items being in use (MemAvailable in
>>>> /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14,  emulated  on  kernels
>>>>               2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote:
>>>> > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something?
>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>> >
>>>> > TIA, Vitaly
>>>> >
>>>> > free -m
>>>> >               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache
>>>> > available
>>>> > Mem:          31654       29883         937           1         832
>>>> >     27675
>>>> > Swap:             0           0           0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by
>>>> looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it
>>>> possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E.
>>>> Williams
>>>> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/
>>>>
>>>> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
>>>> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with
>>>> which I may be affiliated in any way.
>>>> WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From govershay at gmail.com  Tue May  4 22:06:31 2021
From: govershay at gmail.com (Shay Gover)
Date: Tue, 4 May 2021 22:06:31 +0300
Subject: Fwd: Weird 'free' output
In-Reply-To: <CACyhTRF7HV4gbGNVQ0XAz=WjHRNb0iSk0OwGaNQzL6iiL-DZRw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANpTS00cRQbOGdErHxP4yEV_a83d5WDRjvMq4gjVrVodzP6nww@mail.gmail.com>
 <11e40d3a4997e0c6582d03e60bbafff3a97f20f3.camel@zak.co.il>
 <CANpTS03e-6dgKz5D-3xAihNqrHB_AYt8-APC59crq3sj0Wsqaw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACyhTRGyvk1aTEew+Zx=D0Bv26eEupj24DREOkiAYaBrcyKMfw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALR4fE+tDnpsrXi3PR02PPU9T6oAwwPs-SEUCwzHLyUvA0+C-g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACyhTRF7HV4gbGNVQ0XAz=WjHRNb0iSk0OwGaNQzL6iiL-DZRw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANM5d8dmaJ7q1tfyh3ggcy0TLOPrO_Bxi3hb_Q6mqmRBNxrhNA@mail.gmail.com>

Please do not assume that you can speak for the community based on an
article at Ynet.
There is no verdict in that case, not even a complaint (Checked on Nevo
now). Just a rumor and someone wealthy enough to post it on Ynet.


---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com>
Date: Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:49 PM
Subject: Re: Weird 'free' output
To: Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com>
Cc: IGLU Mailing list <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>


Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem.

-- 
Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
http://www.heliconbooks.com





On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ori,
>
> You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe.
>
> Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list. This man is
> a stain on our community.
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com> wrote:
>
>> Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is why free
>> memory seems small.
>>
>> --
>> Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
>> http://www.heliconbooks.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:48 PM linux.il <linux.il at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Omer, thank you!
>>> Is it related to the "Inactive" count from /proc/meminfo?
>>> I used to think that available=free+cache+buffers...
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From man free:
>>>>
>>>> available
>>>>               Estimation of how much memory is available for starting
>>>> new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data provided  by
>>>>               the  cache  or free fields, this field takes into account
>>>> page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs will
>>>>               be reclaimed due to items being in use (MemAvailable in
>>>> /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14,  emulated  on  kernels
>>>>               2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote:
>>>> > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something?
>>>> > Any ideas?
>>>> >
>>>> > TIA, Vitaly
>>>> >
>>>> > free -m
>>>> >               total        used        free      shared  buff/cache
>>>> > available
>>>> > Mem:          31654       29883         937           1         832
>>>> >     27675
>>>> > Swap:             0           0           0
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by
>>>> looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it
>>>> possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E.
>>>> Williams
>>>> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/
>>>>
>>>> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
>>>> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with
>>>> which I may be affiliated in any way.
>>>> WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From w1 at zak.co.il  Tue May  4 22:29:47 2021
From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak)
Date: Tue, 04 May 2021 22:29:47 +0300
Subject: UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Fwd: Weird 'free' output)
In-Reply-To: <CANM5d8dmaJ7q1tfyh3ggcy0TLOPrO_Bxi3hb_Q6mqmRBNxrhNA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANpTS00cRQbOGdErHxP4yEV_a83d5WDRjvMq4gjVrVodzP6nww@mail.gmail.com>
 <11e40d3a4997e0c6582d03e60bbafff3a97f20f3.camel@zak.co.il>
 <CANpTS03e-6dgKz5D-3xAihNqrHB_AYt8-APC59crq3sj0Wsqaw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACyhTRGyvk1aTEew+Zx=D0Bv26eEupj24DREOkiAYaBrcyKMfw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CALR4fE+tDnpsrXi3PR02PPU9T6oAwwPs-SEUCwzHLyUvA0+C-g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CACyhTRF7HV4gbGNVQ0XAz=WjHRNb0iSk0OwGaNQzL6iiL-DZRw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANM5d8dmaJ7q1tfyh3ggcy0TLOPrO_Bxi3hb_Q6mqmRBNxrhNA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dab6371b7033b9246076d70867370de06574fe03.camel@zak.co.il>

May I suggest that Diego Iastrubni be removed from this mailing list
due to potential future disruption of public peace by asking for
removal of people, who have been framed by powerful business
competitors?

--- Omer Zak


On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 22:06 +0300, Shay Gover wrote:
> Please do not assume that you can speak for the community based on an
> article at Ynet.
> There is no verdict in that case, not even a complaint (Checked on
> Nevo now). Just a rumor and someone wealthy enough to post it on
> Ynet. 
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com>
> Date: Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: Weird 'free' output
> To: Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com>
> Cc: IGLU Mailing list <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> 
> 
> Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
> If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem.
> 
> -- 
> Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
> http://www.heliconbooks.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Ori,
> > 
> > You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe. 
> > 
> > Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list. This
> > man is a stain on our community. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com> wrote:
> > > Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is
> > > why free memory seems small.
-- 
Philip Machanick: "caution: if you write code like this, immediately
after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after
you leave will resign"
My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/

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They do not represent the official policy of any organization with
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From w1 at zak.co.il  Wed May  5 01:11:07 2021
From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak)
Date: Wed, 05 May 2021 01:11:07 +0300
Subject: SMART error each hour for a SSD, due to "unreadable (pending) sectors"
Message-ID: <155e1af08fcce6473291ebddb0537cc0ffc919f1.camel@zak.co.il>

I have a laptop with a 1TB SSD.
The smartd daemon logs an error each hour as follows:
-=-=-=->
Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors

Device info:
CT1000MX500SSD4, S/N:2027E2B39329, WWN:5-00a075-1e2b39329, FW:M3CR023,
1.00 TB

For details see host's SYSLOG.
-=-=-=->

When I run: sudo smartctl /dev/sda -a
I get a lot of information which I do not understand its implications.
However, the device has SMART capability but it is not in smartctl
database and:
-=-=-=->
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
-=-=-=->

When I run: sudo egrep /dev/sda /var/log/syslog
I get:
-=-=-=->
May  4 00:02:36 c5 smartd[1014]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], No more
currently unreadable (pending) sectors, warning condition reset after 1
email
May  4 00:02:36 c5 smartd[1014]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 56 to 62
May  4 00:32:36 c5 smartd[1014]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
May  4 00:32:36 c5 smartd[1014]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 62 to 59
May  4 01:02:36 c5 smartd[1014]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], No more Currently unreadable (pending) sectors, warning condition reset after 1 email
May  4 01:02:36 c5 smartd[1014]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 59 to 64
May  4 01:32:37 c5 smartd[1014]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
May  4 01:32:37 c5 smartd[1014]: Device: /dev/sda [SAT], SMART Usage Attribute: 194 Temperature_Celsius changed from 64 to 59
-=-=-=->
and the above repeats each hour.

The laptop seems to work OK with no data loss or such.
However I'd like to understand what is going on and if possible how to
get rid of the warnings.

One more fact which may have bearing: few months ago, had the laptop's
256GB SSD replaced by a 1TB SSD.

Any suggestions how can I troubleshoot it?
Any additional information I should look at?

Thanks,
--- Omer Zak



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From tewner at gmail.com  Wed May  5 10:27:10 2021
From: tewner at gmail.com (Michael Tewner)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 10:27:10 +0300
Subject: UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Fwd: Weird 'free' output)
In-Reply-To: <dab6371b7033b9246076d70867370de06574fe03.camel@zak.co.il>
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I don't get it - Why shouldn't even a convicted criminal be able to answer
a question about Linux FREE(1)   ?

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 10:29 PM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:

> May I suggest that Diego Iastrubni be removed from this mailing list
> due to potential future disruption of public peace by asking for
> removal of people, who have been framed by powerful business
> competitors?
>
> --- Omer Zak
>
>
> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 22:06 +0300, Shay Gover wrote:
> > Please do not assume that you can speak for the community based on an
> > article at Ynet.
> > There is no verdict in that case, not even a complaint (Checked on
> > Nevo now). Just a rumor and someone wealthy enough to post it on
> > Ynet.
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com>
> > Date: Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:49 PM
> > Subject: Re: Weird 'free' output
> > To: Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com>
> > Cc: IGLU Mailing list <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
> >
> >
> > Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
> > If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem.
> >
> > --
> > Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
> > http://www.heliconbooks.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Ori,
> > >
> > > You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe.
> > >
> > > Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list. This
> > > man is a stain on our community.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com> wrote:
> > > > Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is
> > > > why free memory seems small.
> --
> Philip Machanick: "caution: if you write code like this, immediately
> after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after
> you leave will resign"
> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/
>
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From linux.il at gmail.com  Wed May  5 10:36:54 2021
From: linux.il at gmail.com (linux.il)
Date: Wed, 5 May 2021 10:36:54 +0300
Subject: UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Fwd: Weird 'free' output)
In-Reply-To: <CAPxava_e7KheF3eftveW_KAu78CmBf-=euCwTWX9h9ipQRtpMA@mail.gmail.com>
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Guys - even though I didn't receive an answer to my RAM question, I'm happy.
It's really a time machine to the nineties. The only thing I'm missing it's
Marc and a SCSI cable :-)

Vitaly

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 10:28 AM Michael Tewner <tewner at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't get it - Why shouldn't even a convicted criminal be able to answer
> a question about Linux FREE(1)   ?
>
> On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 10:29 PM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:
>
>> May I suggest that Diego Iastrubni be removed from this mailing list
>> due to potential future disruption of public peace by asking for
>> removal of people, who have been framed by powerful business
>> competitors?
>>
>> --- Omer Zak
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 22:06 +0300, Shay Gover wrote:
>> > Please do not assume that you can speak for the community based on an
>> > article at Ynet.
>> > There is no verdict in that case, not even a complaint (Checked on
>> > Nevo now). Just a rumor and someone wealthy enough to post it on
>> > Ynet.
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>> > From: Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com>
>> > Date: Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:49 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Weird 'free' output
>> > To: Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com>
>> > Cc: IGLU Mailing list <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>> >
>> >
>> > Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
>> > If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
>> > http://www.heliconbooks.com
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Ori,
>> > >
>> > > You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe.
>> > >
>> > > Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list. This
>> > > man is a stain on our community.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com> wrote:
>> > > > Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that is
>> > > > why free memory seems small.
>> --
>> Philip Machanick: "caution: if you write code like this, immediately
>> after you are fired the person assigned to maintaining your code after
>> you leave will resign"
>> My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/
>>
>> My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone.
>> They do not represent the official policy of any organization with
>> which I may be affiliated in any way.
>> WARNING TO SPAMMERS:  at https://www.zak.co.il/spamwarning.html
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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From linux-il at shimi.net  Thu May  6 15:13:41 2021
From: linux-il at shimi.net (shimi)
Date: Thu, 6 May 2021 15:13:41 +0300
Subject: SMART error each hour for a SSD,
 due to "unreadable (pending) sectors"
In-Reply-To: <155e1af08fcce6473291ebddb0537cc0ffc919f1.camel@zak.co.il>
References: <155e1af08fcce6473291ebddb0537cc0ffc919f1.camel@zak.co.il>
Message-ID: <CAKnt4U8Ug9RPaUa7_f8CWv+6_ioifmXiDkSUJy4KVO0+gdC2OQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 1:10 AM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:

> I have a laptop with a 1TB SSD.
> The smartd daemon logs an error each hour as follows:
> -=-=-=->
> Device: /dev/sda [SAT], 1 Currently unreadable (pending) sectors
>
>
Googling this sentence finds this: https://serverfault.com/a/851486 - which
sounds plausible enough...

HTH,

-- Shimi
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From shachar at shemesh.biz  Sun May  9 20:02:32 2021
From: shachar at shemesh.biz (Shachar Shemesh)
Date: Sun, 9 May 2021 20:02:32 +0300
Subject: Weird 'free' output
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From w1 at zak.co.il  Sun May  9 20:28:54 2021
From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2021 20:28:54 +0300
Subject: AGAIN, UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Weird 'free' output)
In-Reply-To: <8ee9681b-cf6c-002b-c7a0-eaa9d10cdc73@shemesh.biz>
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As far as I remember, Diego did send the request to the list. So Ori
Idan could not really ignore Diego's E-mail. Doing so could have been
interpreted as admission of guilt (in the Court of Public Opinion).

I agree that failing to prove a point is different from proving the
opposite point.
However, in more enlightened times, the courts in Israel used to work
under the principle that a person is presumed to be innocent until
proven otherwise.
This is equivalent to: you failed to prove a point, so we assume the
opposite point when we need to make decisions.

Regrettably, the courts have not been following this principle in the
case of Tair Rada's murder and presumably in other cases.

I am old fashioned so I happen to prefer the traditional presumption of
innocence, as long as is not abused by lawyers who nitpick the meaning
of words in laws.



On Sun, 2021-05-09 at 20:02 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> I'm not sure my opinion is worth more than anyone else, except I _am_
> one of the admins.
> 
> Diego: +1 for not sending your mail to the list. -1 for not CCing the
> actual admins, and another one for talking for the community.
> 
> Ori: -1 for making this part of the thread public. If I may be so
> bold as to make a suggestion, simply ignoring Diego's mail would have
> been smarter.
> 
> Shay: As far as I know, Nevo does not have police complaints, nor
> even unpublished verdicts. Even if a complaint was filed, it wouldn't
> have shown up. Feel free to correct me in private.
> 
> Michael: +1 agree. I believe this list should judge people based on
> their behavior on or in relation to this list
> 
> Omer: As far as I can tell, Diego didn't send the request to the list
> (at least, I didn't get it on the list). It may well have been
> unintentional, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt
> here. Also, please note that failing to prove a point is not the same
> as proving the opposite point. You are free to believe whatever you
> like, but that is still your belief, not established facts.
> 
> Someone identifying as linux.il: -5 for failing to distinguish
> between a SCSI cable and a differential SCSI cable. I'm really
> disappointed. From you, of all people, I expected better, whoever you
> are.
> 
> 
> 
> On 04/05/2021 21:48, Ori Idan wrote:
> > Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
> > If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem.
> > 
> > -- 
> > Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
> > http://www.heliconbooks.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni <diegoiast at gmail.com
> > > wrote:
> > > Ori,
> > > 
> > > You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe. 
> > > 
> > > Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list.
> > > This man is a stain on our community. 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that
> > > > is why free memory seems small.
> > > > 
> > > > -- 
> > > > Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
> > > > http://www.heliconbooks.com
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:48 PM linux.il <linux.il at gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Omer, thank you!
> > > > > Is it related to the "Inactive" count from /proc/meminfo?
> > > > > I used to think that available=free+cache+buffers...
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il> wrote:
> > > > > > From man free:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > available
> > > > > >               Estimation of how much memory is available
> > > > > > for starting
> > > > > > new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data
> > > > > > provided  by
> > > > > >               the  cache  or free fields, this field takes
> > > > > > into account
> > > > > > page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs
> > > > > > will
> > > > > >               be reclaimed due to items being in use
> > > > > > (MemAvailable in
> > > > > > /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14,  emulated  on 
> > > > > > kernels
> > > > > >               2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote:
> > > > > > > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing something?
> > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > TIA, Vitaly
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > free -m
> > > > > > >               total        used        free      shared 
> > > > > > buff/cache  
> > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > Mem:          31654       29883         937           1 
> > > > > >        832  
> > > > > > >     27675
> > > > > > > Swap:             0           0           0

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From w1 at zak.co.il  Sun May  9 20:51:22 2021
From: w1 at zak.co.il (Omer Zak)
Date: Sun, 09 May 2021 20:51:22 +0300
Subject: CORRECTION (Re: AGAIN, UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Weird 'free' output))
In-Reply-To: <2f45cd9fb1e90ebbbceff5da6dd40fba1f01c508.camel@zak.co.il>
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After sending the E-mail message reproduced below, I checked the
mailing list archives and did not find there Diego's E-mail.
So he apparently limited his E-mail message's distribution to his
victim and to the mailing list's administrators.

So my memory failed me in this case.

However, I believe that Ori did the right thing by letting the Linux-IL 
mailing list members know that some people want to unsubscribe him from
this mailing list due to an indictment.

We, the mailing list participants - not only the administrators - have
the right to express our opinion about whether we want to remove people
who have been indicted, to limit this action to convicted criminals, or
to allow even prisoners to participate (as part of preparing for their
future as productive members of society).

As for me, I wouldn't want to be part of a group which excludes members
based solely upon complaints or indictments, a group which ignores the
possibility of people having been framed by their
business/political/romantic competitors.




On Sun, 2021-05-09 at 20:28 +0300, Omer Zak wrote:
> As far as I remember, Diego did send the request to the list. So Ori
> Idan could not really ignore Diego's E-mail. Doing so could have been
> interpreted as admission of guilt (in the Court of Public Opinion).
> 
> I agree that failing to prove a point is different from proving the
> opposite point.
> However, in more enlightened times, the courts in Israel used to work
> under the principle that a person is presumed to be innocent until
> proven otherwise.
> This is equivalent to: you failed to prove a point, so we assume the
> opposite point when we need to make decisions.
> 
> Regrettably, the courts have not been following this principle in the
> case of Tair Rada's murder and presumably in other cases.
> 
> I am old fashioned so I happen to prefer the traditional presumption
> of
> innocence, as long as is not abused by lawyers who nitpick the
> meaning
> of words in laws.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, 2021-05-09 at 20:02 +0300, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
> > I'm not sure my opinion is worth more than anyone else, except I
> > _am_
> > one of the admins.
> > 
> > Diego: +1 for not sending your mail to the list. -1 for not CCing
> > the
> > actual admins, and another one for talking for the community.
> > 
> > Ori: -1 for making this part of the thread public. If I may be so
> > bold as to make a suggestion, simply ignoring Diego's mail would
> > have
> > been smarter.
> > 
> > Shay: As far as I know, Nevo does not have police complaints, nor
> > even unpublished verdicts. Even if a complaint was filed, it
> > wouldn't
> > have shown up. Feel free to correct me in private.
> > 
> > Michael: +1 agree. I believe this list should judge people based on
> > their behavior on or in relation to this list
> > 
> > Omer: As far as I can tell, Diego didn't send the request to the
> > list
> > (at least, I didn't get it on the list). It may well have been
> > unintentional, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt
> > here. Also, please note that failing to prove a point is not the
> > same
> > as proving the opposite point. You are free to believe whatever you
> > like, but that is still your belief, not established facts.
> > 
> > Someone identifying as linux.il: -5 for failing to distinguish
> > between a SCSI cable and a differential SCSI cable. I'm really
> > disappointed. From you, of all people, I expected better, whoever
> > you
> > are.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 04/05/2021 21:48, Ori Idan wrote:
> > > Sorry, I am not a convicted criminal.
> > > If you believe what is written in Yediot, that is your problem.
> > > 
> > > -- 
> > > Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
> > > http://www.heliconbooks.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:21 PM Diego Iastrubni <
> > > diegoiast at gmail.com
> > > > wrote:
> > > > Ori,
> > > > 
> > > > You are not welcome here. Please unsubscribe. 
> > > > 
> > > > Admins - please remove this convicted criminal from this list.
> > > > This man is a stain on our community. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021, 7:53 PM Ori Idan <ori at heliconbooks.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Note that Linux tries to use available memory for cache, that
> > > > > is why free memory seems small.
> > > > > 
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > Ori Idan CEO Helicon Books
> > > > > http://www.heliconbooks.com
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 2:48 PM linux.il <linux.il at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Omer, thank you!
> > > > > > Is it related to the "Inactive" count from /proc/meminfo?
> > > > > > I used to think that available=free+cache+buffers...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 1:19 PM Omer Zak <w1 at zak.co.il>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > From man free:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > available
> > > > > > >               Estimation of how much memory is available
> > > > > > > for starting
> > > > > > > new applications, without swapping. Unlike the data
> > > > > > > provided  by
> > > > > > >               the  cache  or free fields, this field
> > > > > > > takes
> > > > > > > into account
> > > > > > > page cache and also that not all reclaimable memory slabs
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > >               be reclaimed due to items being in use
> > > > > > > (MemAvailable in
> > > > > > > /proc/meminfo, available on kernels 3.14,  emulated  on 
> > > > > > > kernels
> > > > > > >               2.6.27+, otherwise the same as free)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > On Tue, 2021-05-04 at 13:07 +0300, linux.il wrote:
> > > > > > > > "Available" output seems weird, or I'm missing
> > > > > > > > something?
> > > > > > > > Any ideas?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > TIA, Vitaly
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > free -m
> > > > > > > >               total        used        free      shared
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > buff/cache  
> > > > > > > > available
> > > > > > > > Mem:          31654       29883         937           1
> > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > >        832  
> > > > > > > >     27675
> > > > > > > > Swap:             0           0           0
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From shachar at shemesh.biz  Mon May 10 10:17:33 2021
From: shachar at shemesh.biz (Shachar Shemesh)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 10:17:33 +0300
Subject: CORRECTION (Re: AGAIN, UGLY OFFTOPIC (Re: Weird 'free' output))
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From ori at bardavid.org  Mon May 10 12:03:05 2021
From: ori at bardavid.org (Ariel Bar David)
Date: Mon, 10 May 2021 12:03:05 +0300
Subject: odd alert nvme error "The transport type is not indicated or the
 error is not transport related"
In-Reply-To: <2800799.20HHpn27oK@beast>
References: <2800799.20HHpn27oK@beast>
Message-ID: <CAKRPBSm8XFz26JRdckkv2jnos+YgXxN4mmZpPNisXqThd8JGGQ@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps checking the output of `smartctl -x /dev/nvme0`, specifically under
"Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:" can give you more
information.
There are a lot of attributes there, so you'd need to find a Samsung
official document specifying the different SMART IDs, and search for the
ones that are for error reporting.
Pay attention, from my experience, the ATTRIBUTE_NAME column doesn't
necessarily specify a correct name, so it's best to get the ID number from
an official vendor document.

Also it's possible that there are tools that do all that automatically, I
see that on Fedora there's a GUI for smartctl called 'gsmartcontrol', looks
promising.

On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 9:13 PM <borissh1983 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm struggling to get what could mean this odd "The transport type is not
> indicated or the error is not transport related" error inside nvme
> error-log which is filling my error log.
>
> I also get smart warning of increasing num_err_log_entries , it look like
> it could correspond to one error for each boot but I do not grasp what
> could that mean.
>
> I don't see any noticeable problems for now other than this alert.
>
> output form error-log have errors like this  :
>
> sudo nvme error-log /dev/nvme0
>
> .................
> Entry[63]
> .................
> error_count     : 0
> sqid            : 0
> cmdid           : 0
> status_field    : 0(SUCCESS: The command completed successfully)
> parm_err_loc    : 0
> lba             : 0
> nsid            : 0
> vs              : 0
> trtype          : The transport type is not indicated or the error is not
> transport related.
> cs              : 0
> trtype_spec_info: 0
> .................
>
> This type of error is the same and fill each error entry.
>
> my smart log for it is :
>
>
>
>  sudo nvme smart-log /dev/nvme0
> Smart Log for NVME device:nvme0 namespace-id:ffffffff
> critical_warning                        : 0
> temperature                             : 41 C
> available_spare                         : 100%
> available_spare_threshold               : 10%
> percentage_used                         : 1%
> endurance group critical warning summary: 0
> data_units_read                         : 20,408,448
> data_units_written                      : 15,672,597
> host_read_commands                      : 165,820,725
> host_write_commands                     : 197,378,842
> controller_busy_time                    : 963
> power_cycles                            : 1,666
> power_on_hours                          : 1,865
> unsafe_shutdowns                        : 135
> media_errors                            : 0
> num_err_log_entries                     : 967
> Warning Temperature Time                : 0
> Critical Composite Temperature Time     : 0
> Temperature Sensor 1           : 41 C
> Temperature Sensor 2           : 59 C
> Thermal Management T1 Trans Count       : 0
> Thermal Management T2 Trans Count       : 0
> Thermal Management T1 Total Time        : 0
> Thermal Management T2 Total Time        : 0
> sudo nvme list
> Node             SN                   Model
>                                    Namespace Usage
>                      Format           FW Rev
> ---------------- --------------------
> ---------------------------------------- ---------
> -------------------------- ---------------- --------
> /dev/nvme0n1     XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX       SAMSUNG MZVLB512HAJQ-000L7
>               1         398.24  GB / 512.11  GB    512   B +  0 B   5L2QEXA7
>
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From uri at speedy.net  Sun May 16 06:48:15 2021
From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 06:48:15 +0300
Subject: Mail blocked by Google
Message-ID: <CABD5YeEO68iwwCUDb9Z722-dYL2zwTqMBbDW6mVYtz1-Q3A_Yw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I have an Ubuntu server which sends mail to me daily, and until recently I
received the mail without problems. But recently, mail from the server to
my email address (which is powered by Google) is blocked with the following
error messages:

May 16 04:00:01 www postfix/smtp[1364]: 79264BD01C: to=<
webmaster+root-crontab at speedy.net>, relay=aspmx.l.google.com[142.250.27.27]:25,
delay=0.13, delays=0.02/0.01/0.02/0.07, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host
aspmx.l.google.com[142.250.27.27] said: 550-5.7.1 [157.245.76.159      18]
Our system has detected that this message is 550-5.7.1 likely suspicious
due to the very low reputation of the sending IP 550-5.7.1 address. To best
protect our users from spam, the message has been 550-5.7.1 blocked. Please
visit 550 5.7.1  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 for more
information. bo27si207201edb.287 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA command))

The IP of the server is 157.245.76.159, the sender is
root at www.speedypedia.info and SPF is defined. Is there a way to receive
mail from this server, without using another SMTP server to send mail? This
server only sends mail to myself and I never marked it as spam.

Thanks,

????
uri at speedy.net
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From linux-il at shimi.net  Sun May 16 14:25:40 2021
From: linux-il at shimi.net (shimi)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 14:25:40 +0300
Subject: Mail blocked by Google
In-Reply-To: <CABD5YeEO68iwwCUDb9Z722-dYL2zwTqMBbDW6mVYtz1-Q3A_Yw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABD5YeEO68iwwCUDb9Z722-dYL2zwTqMBbDW6mVYtz1-Q3A_Yw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAKnt4U9xmVCzQNgkAHMEKAZ7_SgpbA1B2TzdMe9DiYRLnqOQOA@mail.gmail.com>

?On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 6:49 AM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?

>
> The IP of the server is 157.245.76.159, the sender is
> root at www.speedypedia.info and SPF is defined. Is there a way to receive
> mail from this server, without using another SMTP server to send mail? This
> server only sends mail to myself and I never marked it as spam.
>
>
You could try adding DKIM too, to cryptographically authenticate outgoing
mail from your domain, which I think is one of the markers GMail is looking
at when deciding reputation.

OR (and probably much simpler if you're doing roll-your-own), if you
haven't done so already and you don't mind, you can try sending *authenticated
SMTP*, using Google's mail servers as your official SMTP server (relay),
authenticating with a GMail account on your domain (preferably not your
primary one, in case your server gets hacked and everything).

HTH,

-- Shimi
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From vordoo at yahoo.com  Sun May 16 14:28:22 2021
From: vordoo at yahoo.com (Vordoo)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 14:28:22 +0300
Subject: Mail blocked by Google
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From uri at speedy.net  Sun May 16 14:45:29 2021
From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=)
Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 14:45:29 +0300
Subject: Mail blocked by Google
In-Reply-To: <f98d79a8-bc98-7459-11b1-d0ab550ac37d@yahoo.com>
References: <CABD5YeEO68iwwCUDb9Z722-dYL2zwTqMBbDW6mVYtz1-Q3A_Yw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABD5YeHP85ed3H10Qur37pBi8=c_Jn609TZu6CZBTCCuKviagg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you.

????
uri at speedy.net
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From: vordoo at yahoo.com (Vordoo)
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Dear Linux-IL admins will you reconsider, it's 2021...


elylevy at cs.huji.ac.il, mycroft at infoscav.net, shachar at 
shemesh.biz <mailto:linux-il-owner at cs.huji.ac.il>



From d.s at daniel.shahaf.name  Tue May 18 04:14:02 2021
From: d.s at daniel.shahaf.name (Daniel Shahaf)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 01:14:02 +0000
Subject: Mail blocked by Google
In-Reply-To: <f98d79a8-bc98-7459-11b1-d0ab550ac37d@yahoo.com>
References: <CABD5YeEO68iwwCUDb9Z722-dYL2zwTqMBbDW6mVYtz1-Q3A_Yw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <64a75d3c-f27c-45ee-95d7-39eb35608086@www.fastmail.com>

Vordoo wrote on Sun, 16 May 2021 11:28 +00:00:
> On 5/16/21 6:48 AM, ???? wrote:
> > May 16 04:00:01 www postfix/smtp[1364]: 79264BD01C: to=<webmaster+root-crontab at speedy.net <mailto:webmaster%2Broot-crontab at speedy.net>>, relay=aspmx.l.google.com[142.250.27.27]:25, delay=0.13, delays=0.02/0.01/0.02/0.07, dsn=5.7.1, status=bounced (host aspmx.l.google.com[142.250.27.27] said: 550-5.7.1 [157.245.76.159      18] Our system has detected that this message is 550-5.7.1 _*likely suspicious due to the very low reputation *_of the sending IP 550-5.7.1 address. To best protect our users from spam, the message has been 550-5.7.1 blocked. Please visit 550 5.7.1  https://support.google.com/mail/answer/188131 for more information. bo27si207201edb.287 - gsmtp (in reply to end of DATA 
> 
> For a long time now it's becoming a real nuisance to self host email 
> servers. You need a static IP with clean / good reputation + nspf, 
> dkim, dmarc and all that

At last count: MTA-STS, MX, SPF, DMARC, TLS-RPT, DKIM, CSA, SRV, and
a few "prove to $thirdparty that I own this domain" records for various
third parties.  And even then, a new outbound IP requires a slow
warm-up etc..

It's definitely a lot easier to use a relayhost.

> while most your mail will be routed trough google anyway. It's
> probably only worth it for big setups or educational purposes.


From gabor at szabgab.com  Tue May 18 08:43:19 2021
From: gabor at szabgab.com (Gabor Szabo)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 08:43:19 +0300
Subject: Copy-Paste from Firefox 88.0.1 not working properly on Ubuntu 21.04
 (Hirsute Hippo)
Message-ID: <CABe4FJCDER+gu1Ye+n8eU-O906LZ3nRFevrDNF8MnLb7Arr17w@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

A few days ago I  upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Since then I have problems
with Copy-paste. At first it seemed to be randomly not working, but after
some experimentation I think it does not work when I try to Copy from
Firefox to anything else which is not Firefox.

(And to be even stranger it seems to work sometimes from Firefox to other
apps as well, but only a few times and then it stops working.)

I also posted it on AskUbuntu, but so far no good responses.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/1338970/copy-paste-from-firefox-88-0-1-not-working-properly-on-ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hip

Have any of you encountered it?
Do you have a similar environment and it works for you?

Gabor
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From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Tue May 18 08:50:11 2021
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:50:11 +0400
Subject: Copy-Paste from Firefox 88.0.1 not working properly on Ubuntu
 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo)
In-Reply-To: <CABe4FJCDER+gu1Ye+n8eU-O906LZ3nRFevrDNF8MnLb7Arr17w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABe4FJCDER+gu1Ye+n8eU-O906LZ3nRFevrDNF8MnLb7Arr17w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGASG3yM_0qkBojT270MdBexH9bYWQFeKG6fwqnDW7Z3yu8ZSQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm also on 21.04. Copying from FF to a terminal and to email seems to work
fine.

Probably unrelated, but I first upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Everything
seemed fine until I tried to use my Arduino, and found that the serial
ports no longer worked. After some discussion with Arduino and Ubuntu
forums I decided to do a fresh install of 21.04, and now serial ports work.
(I would have liked to understand this problem but I'm on a deadline to get
some Arduino work done).

Like I said, probably unrelated. But if you get desperate try a fresh
install (I know, that's a real kludge, like power cycling to see if a
problem goes away)

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 9:44 AM Gabor Szabo <gabor at szabgab.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A few days ago I  upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Since then I have problems
> with Copy-paste. At first it seemed to be randomly not working, but after
> some experimentation I think it does not work when I try to Copy from
> Firefox to anything else which is not Firefox.
>
> (And to be even stranger it seems to work sometimes from Firefox to other
> apps as well, but only a few times and then it stops working.)
>
> I also posted it on AskUbuntu, but so far no good responses.
>
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1338970/copy-paste-from-firefox-88-0-1-not-working-properly-on-ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hip
>
> Have any of you encountered it?
> Do you have a similar environment and it works for you?
>
> Gabor
>
> _______________________________________________
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From efraim at flashner.co.il  Tue May 18 10:32:33 2021
From: efraim at flashner.co.il (Efraim Flashner)
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 10:32:33 +0300
Subject: Copy-Paste from Firefox 88.0.1 not working properly on Ubuntu
 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo)
In-Reply-To: <CABe4FJCDER+gu1Ye+n8eU-O906LZ3nRFevrDNF8MnLb7Arr17w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABe4FJCDER+gu1Ye+n8eU-O906LZ3nRFevrDNF8MnLb7Arr17w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <YKNtkd+8H8WO+SDM@3900XT>

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 08:43:19AM +0300, Gabor Szabo wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> A few days ago I  upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Since then I have problems
> with Copy-paste. At first it seemed to be randomly not working, but after
> some experimentation I think it does not work when I try to Copy from
> Firefox to anything else which is not Firefox.
> 
> (And to be even stranger it seems to work sometimes from Firefox to other
> apps as well, but only a few times and then it stops working.)
> 
> I also posted it on AskUbuntu, but so far no good responses.
> 
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1338970/copy-paste-from-firefox-88-0-1-not-working-properly-on-ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hip
> 
> Have any of you encountered it?
> Do you have a similar environment and it works for you?
> 

I'm not using Ubuntu ATM but I found when I switched from X11 to wayland
I ran into some issues with copy-paste between windows running with
wayland vs xwayland.


-- 
Efraim Flashner   <efraim at flashner.co.il>   ????? ?????
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From gabor at szabgab.com  Wed May 19 07:11:10 2021
From: gabor at szabgab.com (Gabor Szabo)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 07:11:10 +0300
Subject: Copy-Paste from Firefox 88.0.1 not working properly on Ubuntu
 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo)
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I noticed I have similar issues while trying to copy from the terminal.
Highlight then Ctrl-Shift-C. Ctlr-Shift-V works in the terminal and pastes
it, but Ctrl-V in other applications freeze the other app for a few seconds
and the paste does not work.

Earlier I tried a reboot. It worked for a while then it stopped.

Yesterday I tried logout/login and it has been working since then.

Now my guess is that there might be some key combination that starts this
behaviour. Really strange.

Gabor

On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 8:50 AM Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm also on 21.04. Copying from FF to a terminal and to email seems to
> work fine.
>
> Probably unrelated, but I first upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Everything
> seemed fine until I tried to use my Arduino, and found that the serial
> ports no longer worked. After some discussion with Arduino and Ubuntu
> forums I decided to do a fresh install of 21.04, and now serial ports work.
> (I would have liked to understand this problem but I'm on a deadline to get
> some Arduino work done).
>
> Like I said, probably unrelated. But if you get desperate try a fresh
> install (I know, that's a real kludge, like power cycling to see if a
> problem goes away)
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 9:44 AM Gabor Szabo <gabor at szabgab.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> A few days ago I  upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Since then I have
>> problems with Copy-paste. At first it seemed to be randomly not working,
>> but after some experimentation I think it does not work when I try to Copy
>> from Firefox to anything else which is not Firefox.
>>
>> (And to be even stranger it seems to work sometimes from Firefox to other
>> apps as well, but only a few times and then it stops working.)
>>
>> I also posted it on AskUbuntu, but so far no good responses.
>>
>>
>> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1338970/copy-paste-from-firefox-88-0-1-not-working-properly-on-ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hip
>>
>> Have any of you encountered it?
>> Do you have a similar environment and it works for you?
>>
>> Gabor
>>
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From uri at speedy.net  Wed May 19 07:48:33 2021
From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=)
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 07:48:33 +0300
Subject: Copy-Paste from Firefox 88.0.1 not working properly on Ubuntu
 21.04 (Hirsute Hippo)
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Why not use Chrome?
????
uri at speedy.net


On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 8:44 AM Gabor Szabo <gabor at szabgab.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> A few days ago I  upgraded from 20.10 to 21.04. Since then I have problems
> with Copy-paste. At first it seemed to be randomly not working, but after
> some experimentation I think it does not work when I try to Copy from
> Firefox to anything else which is not Firefox.
>
> (And to be even stranger it seems to work sometimes from Firefox to other
> apps as well, but only a few times and then it stops working.)
>
> I also posted it on AskUbuntu, but so far no good responses.
>
>
> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1338970/copy-paste-from-firefox-88-0-1-not-working-properly-on-ubuntu-21-04-hirsute-hip
>
> Have any of you encountered it?
> Do you have a similar environment and it works for you?
>
> Gabor
>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
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