From uri at speedy.net  Thu Sep 30 07:10:49 2021
From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 07:10:49 +0300
Subject: Hebrew with putty
Message-ID: <CABD5YeHhRXmqM5T9oHWtPM6Q1nP5NFQmRMPK23K-C1h2Otc08g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm using bash on Ubuntu. I run a command to check how many times each
lines appear. My command is something like:

$ cat /var/log/django/speedy.log*|fgrep -i send_mail|fgrep
'subject="'|fgrep -v uri+selenium-test-user|awk -F\, '{print
$(NF-1)","$NF}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr|fgrep -v
email/contact_by_form/admin_feedback

And the results are:

...
     96  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="You have
a new message on Speedy Net"
     39  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="?? ??
????? ???? ?????? ??'"
     22  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
subject="??? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
     15  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_second_email,
subject="Confirm your email address on Speedy Net"
     10  template_name_prefix=email/likes/like, subject="????? ??? ?? ????
?????? ??'"
      7  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
subject="???? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
      6  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/password_reset,
subject="Password reset on Speedy Net"
...

(I only showed a few lines in the middle).

I do it with putty SSH, but when I view it with putty, I see "01" where
"10" should be, and "93" where "39" should be (see screenshot attached). I
think this is because the rest of the line is in Hebrew. Why does it show
"01" and "93" and how can I fix it, if I can?

Thanks,


????
uri at speedy.net
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From uri at speedy.net  Thu Sep 30 10:43:37 2021
From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 10:43:37 +0300
Subject: Hebrew with putty
In-Reply-To: <CABD5YeHhRXmqM5T9oHWtPM6Q1nP5NFQmRMPK23K-C1h2Otc08g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABD5YeHhRXmqM5T9oHWtPM6Q1nP5NFQmRMPK23K-C1h2Otc08g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABD5YeGQOYdU4vmV3cgzEJ1cE8QtWoDUiEq5CgegxuQeq1uWSQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I realized it is probably a bug in putty, so I wrote to
putty at projects.tartarus.org and got a reply.

https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/feedback.html

However the putty developers might need help to fix it as they are not
RTL-language speaking themselves, so if you know how to do it you can write
to them or send them a patch of the source code. I tried to look at the
putty source code myself but it looks complicated and I don't know how to
fix this bug for myself. There is an option to disable bidirectional text
display in putty, but then the Hebrew text is reversed too.

????
uri at speedy.net


?On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 7:10 AM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?

> Hi,
>
> I'm using bash on Ubuntu. I run a command to check how many times each
> lines appear. My command is something like:
>
> $ cat /var/log/django/speedy.log*|fgrep -i send_mail|fgrep
> 'subject="'|fgrep -v uri+selenium-test-user|awk -F\, '{print
> $(NF-1)","$NF}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr|fgrep -v
> email/contact_by_form/admin_feedback
>
> And the results are:
>
> ...
>      96  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="You
> have a new message on Speedy Net"
>      39  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="?? ??
> ????? ???? ?????? ??'"
>      22  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
> subject="??? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
>      15  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_second_email,
> subject="Confirm your email address on Speedy Net"
>      10  template_name_prefix=email/likes/like, subject="????? ??? ?? ????
> ?????? ??'"
>       7  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
> subject="???? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
>       6  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/password_reset,
> subject="Password reset on Speedy Net"
> ...
>
> (I only showed a few lines in the middle).
>
> I do it with putty SSH, but when I view it with putty, I see "01" where
> "10" should be, and "93" where "39" should be (see screenshot attached). I
> think this is because the rest of the line is in Hebrew. Why does it show
> "01" and "93" and how can I fix it, if I can?
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> ????
> uri at speedy.net
>
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From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 12:07:06 2021
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 13:07:06 +0400
Subject: Hebrew with putty
In-Reply-To: <CABD5YeGQOYdU4vmV3cgzEJ1cE8QtWoDUiEq5CgegxuQeq1uWSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABD5YeHhRXmqM5T9oHWtPM6Q1nP5NFQmRMPK23K-C1h2Otc08g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABD5YeGQOYdU4vmV3cgzEJ1cE8QtWoDUiEq5CgegxuQeq1uWSQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGASG3yj3tN3V_OA2xS=AtybhSWuT-yL_twFHUOjP5EMWV2mmw@mail.gmail.com>

This is very interesting. A while ago I was looking at something in Hebrew
(I can't remember if it was a website or email) and I realized that the
phone numbers were reversed. I'll bet they had the same bug you are talking
about.

Now if only I could remember what that was ....

?On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:45 AM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?

> Hi,
>
> I realized it is probably a bug in putty, so I wrote to
> putty at projects.tartarus.org and got a reply.
>
> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/feedback.html
>
> However the putty developers might need help to fix it as they are not
> RTL-language speaking themselves, so if you know how to do it you can write
> to them or send them a patch of the source code. I tried to look at the
> putty source code myself but it looks complicated and I don't know how to
> fix this bug for myself. There is an option to disable bidirectional text
> display in putty, but then the Hebrew text is reversed too.
>
> ????
> uri at speedy.net
>
>
> ?On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 7:10 AM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm using bash on Ubuntu. I run a command to check how many times each
>> lines appear. My command is something like:
>>
>> $ cat /var/log/django/speedy.log*|fgrep -i send_mail|fgrep
>> 'subject="'|fgrep -v uri+selenium-test-user|awk -F\, '{print
>> $(NF-1)","$NF}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr|fgrep -v
>> email/contact_by_form/admin_feedback
>>
>> And the results are:
>>
>> ...
>>      96  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="You
>> have a new message on Speedy Net"
>>      39  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="?? ??
>> ????? ???? ?????? ??'"
>>      22  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>> subject="??? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
>>      15  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_second_email,
>> subject="Confirm your email address on Speedy Net"
>>      10  template_name_prefix=email/likes/like, subject="????? ??? ??
>> ???? ?????? ??'"
>>       7  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>> subject="???? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
>>       6  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/password_reset,
>> subject="Password reset on Speedy Net"
>> ...
>>
>> (I only showed a few lines in the middle).
>>
>> I do it with putty SSH, but when I view it with putty, I see "01" where
>> "10" should be, and "93" where "39" should be (see screenshot attached). I
>> think this is because the rest of the line is in Hebrew. Why does it show
>> "01" and "93" and how can I fix it, if I can?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>> ????
>> uri at speedy.net
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Linux-il mailing list
> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>
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From uri at speedy.net  Thu Sep 30 12:08:49 2021
From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 12:08:49 +0300
Subject: Hebrew with putty
In-Reply-To: <CAGASG3yj3tN3V_OA2xS=AtybhSWuT-yL_twFHUOjP5EMWV2mmw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABD5YeHhRXmqM5T9oHWtPM6Q1nP5NFQmRMPK23K-C1h2Otc08g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CABD5YeGQOYdU4vmV3cgzEJ1cE8QtWoDUiEq5CgegxuQeq1uWSQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAGASG3yj3tN3V_OA2xS=AtybhSWuT-yL_twFHUOjP5EMWV2mmw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABD5YeGVmu2WeyHvRJ8oGWuAb1d4JnvbXOPMoJ6Vjp+b-q-50g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Michael,

Did you use putty then?

????
uri at speedy.net


On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 12:07 PM Michael Shiloh <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> This is very interesting. A while ago I was looking at something in Hebrew
> (I can't remember if it was a website or email) and I realized that the
> phone numbers were reversed. I'll bet they had the same bug you are talking
> about.
>
> Now if only I could remember what that was ....
>
> ?On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:45 AM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I realized it is probably a bug in putty, so I wrote to
>> putty at projects.tartarus.org and got a reply.
>>
>> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/feedback.html
>>
>> However the putty developers might need help to fix it as they are not
>> RTL-language speaking themselves, so if you know how to do it you can write
>> to them or send them a patch of the source code. I tried to look at the
>> putty source code myself but it looks complicated and I don't know how to
>> fix this bug for myself. There is an option to disable bidirectional text
>> display in putty, but then the Hebrew text is reversed too.
>>
>> ????
>> uri at speedy.net
>>
>>
>> ?On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 7:10 AM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm using bash on Ubuntu. I run a command to check how many times each
>>> lines appear. My command is something like:
>>>
>>> $ cat /var/log/django/speedy.log*|fgrep -i send_mail|fgrep
>>> 'subject="'|fgrep -v uri+selenium-test-user|awk -F\, '{print
>>> $(NF-1)","$NF}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr|fgrep -v
>>> email/contact_by_form/admin_feedback
>>>
>>> And the results are:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>      96  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="You
>>> have a new message on Speedy Net"
>>>      39  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="?? ??
>>> ????? ???? ?????? ??'"
>>>      22  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>>> subject="??? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
>>>      15  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_second_email,
>>> subject="Confirm your email address on Speedy Net"
>>>      10  template_name_prefix=email/likes/like, subject="????? ??? ??
>>> ???? ?????? ??'"
>>>       7  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>>> subject="???? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
>>>       6  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/password_reset,
>>> subject="Password reset on Speedy Net"
>>> ...
>>>
>>> (I only showed a few lines in the middle).
>>>
>>> I do it with putty SSH, but when I view it with putty, I see "01" where
>>> "10" should be, and "93" where "39" should be (see screenshot attached). I
>>> think this is because the rest of the line is in Hebrew. Why does it show
>>> "01" and "93" and how can I fix it, if I can?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> ????
>>> uri at speedy.net
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Linux-il mailing list
>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>
>
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From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com  Thu Sep 30 12:26:46 2021
From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 13:26:46 +0400
Subject: Hebrew with putty
In-Reply-To: <CABD5YeGVmu2WeyHvRJ8oGWuAb1d4JnvbXOPMoJ6Vjp+b-q-50g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABD5YeHhRXmqM5T9oHWtPM6Q1nP5NFQmRMPK23K-C1h2Otc08g@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAGASG3yj3tN3V_OA2xS=AtybhSWuT-yL_twFHUOjP5EMWV2mmw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAGASG3ymKRsv9aLkMsLDJ36RTgYq7cNn9ZxmKeAWodmMuxLwzg@mail.gmail.com>

I was not using Putty

?On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 1:09 PM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?

> Hi Michael,
>
> Did you use putty then?
>
> ????
> uri at speedy.net
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 12:07 PM Michael Shiloh <
> michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This is very interesting. A while ago I was looking at something in
>> Hebrew (I can't remember if it was a website or email) and I realized that
>> the phone numbers were reversed. I'll bet they had the same bug you are
>> talking about.
>>
>> Now if only I could remember what that was ....
>>
>> ?On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 11:45 AM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I realized it is probably a bug in putty, so I wrote to
>>> putty at projects.tartarus.org and got a reply.
>>>
>>> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/feedback.html
>>>
>>> However the putty developers might need help to fix it as they are not
>>> RTL-language speaking themselves, so if you know how to do it you can write
>>> to them or send them a patch of the source code. I tried to look at the
>>> putty source code myself but it looks complicated and I don't know how to
>>> fix this bug for myself. There is an option to disable bidirectional text
>>> display in putty, but then the Hebrew text is reversed too.
>>>
>>> ????
>>> uri at speedy.net
>>>
>>>
>>> ?On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 7:10 AM ??????? <uri at speedy.net> wrote:?
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm using bash on Ubuntu. I run a command to check how many times each
>>>> lines appear. My command is something like:
>>>>
>>>> $ cat /var/log/django/speedy.log*|fgrep -i send_mail|fgrep
>>>> 'subject="'|fgrep -v uri+selenium-test-user|awk -F\, '{print
>>>> $(NF-1)","$NF}'|sort|uniq -c|sort -nr|fgrep -v
>>>> email/contact_by_form/admin_feedback
>>>>
>>>> And the results are:
>>>>
>>>> ...
>>>>      96  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="You
>>>> have a new message on Speedy Net"
>>>>      39  template_name_prefix=email/messages/new_message, subject="??
>>>> ?? ????? ???? ?????? ??'"
>>>>      22  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>>>> subject="??? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
>>>>      15  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_second_email,
>>>> subject="Confirm your email address on Speedy Net"
>>>>      10  template_name_prefix=email/likes/like, subject="????? ??? ??
>>>> ???? ?????? ??'"
>>>>       7  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/confirm_first_email,
>>>> subject="???? ?? ????? ????? ????????? ??? ?????? ??'"
>>>>       6  template_name_prefix=email/accounts/password_reset,
>>>> subject="Password reset on Speedy Net"
>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> (I only showed a few lines in the middle).
>>>>
>>>> I do it with putty SSH, but when I view it with putty, I see "01" where
>>>> "10" should be, and "93" where "39" should be (see screenshot attached). I
>>>> think this is because the rest of the line is in Hebrew. Why does it show
>>>> "01" and "93" and how can I fix it, if I can?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ????
>>>> uri at speedy.net
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Linux-il mailing list
>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il
>>>
>>
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From tzafrir at cohens.org.il  Thu Sep 30 22:07:36 2021
From: tzafrir at cohens.org.il (Tzafrir Cohen)
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2021 22:07:36 +0300
Subject: Hebrew with putty
In-Reply-To: <CABD5YeGQOYdU4vmV3cgzEJ1cE8QtWoDUiEq5CgegxuQeq1uWSQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABD5YeHhRXmqM5T9oHWtPM6Q1nP5NFQmRMPK23K-C1h2Otc08g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <YVYK+CKnDGTfP0TX@malaclypse.cohens.org.il>

On Thu, Sep 30, 2021 at 10:43:37AM +0300, ???? wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I realized it is probably a bug in putty, so I wrote to
> putty at projects.tartarus.org and got a reply.
> 
> https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/feedback.html
> 
> However the putty developers might need help to fix it as they are not
> RTL-language speaking themselves, so if you know how to do it you can write
> to them or send them a patch of the source code. I tried to look at the
> putty source code myself but it looks complicated and I don't know how to
> fix this bug for myself. There is an option to disable bidirectional text
> display in putty, but then the Hebrew text is reversed too.

The basic thing you can do is simplify the test case. Put that text in a
file and make sure that merely cat of that file gives the problematic
output. Then try to get a minimal example that still shows the problem.

-- Tzafrir