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SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques From uri at speedy.net Tue Jan 4 06:07:43 2022 From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 06:07:43 +0200 Subject: Python on Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS Message-ID: Hi, /usr/bin/python is defined on my server as a link to the deprecated python2.7, and I didn't want to break anything, so I defined /usr/bin/_py as a link to python3.8. I wanted to check how many bytes a giga and tera is, so I ran _py -c "print(1024**3)" and _py -c "print(1024**4)". Then I checked _py -c "print(2**64)" and I wanted to check _py -c "print(2**64**3)", which I thought will be equal to _py -c "print(2**192)" (_py -c "print((2**64)**3)"), but no - this gave me a number with 78914 digits and I'm glad it didn't crash my server (4 or 5 or 6 would have crashed it). Since when 2**64**3 is 2**(64**3) and not (2**64)**3? Anyway I also checked 2**10**6 (==2**1000000) and I found out that it contains exactly 10% digits of 6, and I even created a small program to calculate the powers of 2 that give exactly 10% digits of 6. Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0 to 9 (in decimal form)? for n in range(1, 10 ** 6 + 1): a = 2 ** n b = list(str(a)) s = sum([1 if i == "6" else 0 for i in b]) if (s * 10 == len(b)): print(n, len(b), s) Thanks, ???? uri at speedy.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 06:43:35 2022 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 06:43:35 +0200 Subject: Python on Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20220104064335.2d41d9ac@shlomo1.solomon> NOT an answer to your question, but instead of a link to python3.8, I added 2 lines to .bash_aliases: alias p="python3.8" alias p2="python2.7" On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 06:07:43 +0200 ???? wrote: > Hi, > > /usr/bin/python is defined on my server as a link to the > deprecated python2.7, and I didn't want to break anything, so I > defined /usr/bin/_py as a link to python3.8. I wanted to check how > many bytes a giga and tera is, so I ran _py -c "print(1024**3)" and > _py -c "print(1024**4)". Then I checked _py -c "print(2**64)" and I > wanted to check _py -c "print(2**64**3)", which I thought will be > equal to _py -c "print(2**192)" (_py -c "print((2**64)**3)"), but no > - this gave me a number with 78914 digits and I'm glad it didn't > crash my server (4 or 5 or 6 would have crashed it). Since when > 2**64**3 is 2**(64**3) and not (2**64)**3? Anyway I also checked > 2**10**6 (==2**1000000) and I found out that it contains exactly 10% > digits of 6, and I even created a small program to calculate the > powers of 2 that give exactly 10% digits of 6. Are there powers of 2 > which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0 to 9 (in decimal form)? > > for n in range(1, 10 ** 6 + 1): > a = 2 ** n > b = list(str(a)) > s = sum([1 if i == "6" else 0 for i in b]) > if (s * 10 == len(b)): > print(n, len(b), s) > > Thanks, > > ???? > uri at speedy.net -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Claws Mail 3.17.5 - KDE Plasma 5.18.5 - Kubuntu 20.04 From d.s at daniel.shahaf.name Tue Jan 4 06:53:17 2022 From: d.s at daniel.shahaf.name (Daniel Shahaf) Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:53:17 +0000 Subject: Python on Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4df018f2-5372-47a2-ac19-8a85825b2a8d@www.fastmail.com> ???? wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:07 +00:00: > Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0 to 9 (in > decimal form)? No, because then the sum of the digits would be a multiple of nine, so the number wouldn't be a power of two. From uri at speedy.net Tue Jan 4 07:24:48 2022 From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 07:24:48 +0200 Subject: Python on Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS In-Reply-To: <4df018f2-5372-47a2-ac19-8a85825b2a8d@www.fastmail.com> References: <4df018f2-5372-47a2-ac19-8a85825b2a8d@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you, that's interesting. So all such numbers are divisible by 9. I didn't think about it. You might be interested in my related question: https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4348279/what-is-the-highest-number-of-digits-so-that-this-number-of-digits-in-a-specific >From checking about the first 50,000 powers of 2, I didn't find c more than 5, who actually appears only twice (c is the number of digits who appear exactly 10% of the time in the decimal form of a specific power of 2). ???? uri at speedy.net On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 6:53 AM Daniel Shahaf wrote: > ???? wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:07 +00:00: > > Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0 to > 9 (in > > decimal form)? > > No, because then the sum of the digits would be a multiple of nine, so the > number wouldn't be a power of two. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I > didn't think about it. > > You might be interested in my related question: > > https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4348279/what-is-the-highest-number-of-digits-so-that-this-number-of-digits-in-a-specific > > From checking about the first 50,000 powers of 2, I didn't find c more > than 5, who actually appears only twice (c is the number of digits who > appear exactly 10% of the time in the decimal form of a specific power of > 2). > > ???? > uri at speedy.net > > > On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 6:53 AM Daniel Shahaf > wrote: > >> ???? wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:07 +00:00: >> > Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0 to >> 9 (in >> > decimal form)? >> >> No, because then the sum of the digits would be a multiple of nine, so the >> number wouldn't be a power of two. >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com Tue Jan 4 08:01:26 2022 From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2022 10:01:26 +0400 Subject: Python on Ubuntu 18.04.6 LTS In-Reply-To: References: <4df018f2-5372-47a2-ac19-8a85825b2a8d@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: Interesting discussion, but the subject seems quite wrong. ?On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 9:32 AM ??????? wrote:? > From checking also powers of 3, I can't find more than c==5 (for 3**20 and > 3**124). > > ???? > uri at speedy.net > > > ?On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 7:24 AM ??????? wrote:? > >> Thank you, that's interesting. So all such numbers are divisible by 9. I >> didn't think about it. >> >> You might be interested in my related question: >> >> https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4348279/what-is-the-highest-number-of-digits-so-that-this-number-of-digits-in-a-specific >> >> From checking about the first 50,000 powers of 2, I didn't find c more >> than 5, who actually appears only twice (c is the number of digits who >> appear exactly 10% of the time in the decimal form of a specific power of >> 2). >> >> ???? >> uri at speedy.net >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 6:53 AM Daniel Shahaf >> wrote: >> >>> ???? wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:07 +00:00: >>> > Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0 >>> to 9 (in >>> > decimal form)? >>> >>> No, because then the sum of the digits would be a multiple of nine, so >>> the >>> number wouldn't be a power of two. >>> >> _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I >>> didn't think about it. >>> >>> You might be interested in my related question: >>> >>> https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4348279/what-is-the-highest-number-of-digits-so-that-this-number-of-digits-in-a-specific >>> >>> From checking about the first 50,000 powers of 2, I didn't find c more >>> than 5, who actually appears only twice (c is the number of digits who >>> appear exactly 10% of the time in the decimal form of a specific power of >>> 2). >>> >>> ???? >>> uri at speedy.net >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 6:53 AM Daniel Shahaf >>> wrote: >>> >>>> ???? wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:07 +00:00: >>>> > Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0 >>>> to 9 (in >>>> > decimal form)? >>>> >>>> No, because then the sum of the digits would be a multiple of nine, so >>>> the >>>> number wouldn't be a power of two. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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So all such numbers are divisible by 9. >>>> I didn't think about it. >>>> >>>> You might be interested in my related question: >>>> >>>> https://math.stackexchange.com/questions/4348279/what-is-the-highest-number-of-digits-so-that-this-number-of-digits-in-a-specific >>>> >>>> From checking about the first 50,000 powers of 2, I didn't find c more >>>> than 5, who actually appears only twice (c is the number of digits who >>>> appear exactly 10% of the time in the decimal form of a specific power of >>>> 2). >>>> >>>> ???? >>>> uri at speedy.net >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 6:53 AM Daniel Shahaf >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> ???? wrote on Tue, 04 Jan 2022 04:07 +00:00: >>>>> > Are there powers of 2 which give exactly 10% of each of the digits 0 >>>>> to 9 (in >>>>> > decimal form)? >>>>> >>>>> No, because then the sum of the digits would be a multiple of nine, so >>>>> the >>>>> number wouldn't be a power of two. >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> Linux-il mailing list >>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tzafrir at cohens.org.il Sat Jan 8 11:06:41 2022 From: tzafrir at cohens.org.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 11:06:41 +0200 Subject: recover ssh-agent socket Message-ID: Hi, I accidentally deleted my ssh-agent's socket from /tmp. The agent is still running and I have $SSH_AGENT_PID and $SSH_AUTH_SOCK set in various processes, so I know where it should have been. Is there any way to recover the socket? Short of restarting the X session, of course. -- mail / xmpp / matrix: tzafrir at cohens.org.il From uri at speedy.net Sat Jan 8 13:17:34 2022 From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 13:17:34 +0200 Subject: recover ssh-agent socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Is there a reason not to restart? ???? uri at speedy.net On Sat, Jan 8, 2022 at 11:07 AM Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Hi, > > I accidentally deleted my ssh-agent's socket from /tmp. The agent is > still running and I have $SSH_AGENT_PID and $SSH_AUTH_SOCK set in > various processes, so I know where it should have been. > > Is there any way to recover the socket? Short of restarting the X > session, of course. > > -- > mail / xmpp / matrix: tzafrir at cohens.org.il > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shachar at shemesh.biz Sat Jan 8 13:24:18 2022 From: shachar at shemesh.biz (Shachar Shemesh) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 13:24:18 +0200 Subject: recover ssh-agent socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3093242f-ba06-77b6-9b1f-2aad3bf073e0@shemesh.biz> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tzafrir at cohens.org.il Sat Jan 8 15:06:25 2022 From: tzafrir at cohens.org.il (Tzafrir Cohen) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 15:06:25 +0200 Subject: recover ssh-agent socket In-Reply-To: <3093242f-ba06-77b6-9b1f-2aad3bf073e0@shemesh.biz> References: <3093242f-ba06-77b6-9b1f-2aad3bf073e0@shemesh.biz> Message-ID: On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 01:24:18PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: > > You can probably find it under /proc/$SSH_AGENT_PID/fd. I see there: lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 8 15:00 0 -> /dev/null lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 8 15:00 1 -> /dev/null lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 8 15:00 2 -> /dev/null lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 8 15:00 3 -> 'socket:[14326]' > > With that said, I'm not sure whether that brings you any closer > > to recovering it. Maybe a move (the syscall, not the command line) > > from there to $SSH_AUTH_SOCK? Also, to answer Uri: Because it's there. -- mail / xmpp / matrix: tzafrir at cohens.org.il From guy.choo.keren at gmail.com Sat Jan 8 16:05:31 2022 From: guy.choo.keren at gmail.com (guy keren) Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2022 16:05:31 +0200 Subject: recover ssh-agent socket In-Reply-To: References: <3093242f-ba06-77b6-9b1f-2aad3bf073e0@shemesh.biz> Message-ID: On 1/8/22 3:06 PM, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sat, Jan 08, 2022 at 01:24:18PM +0200, Shachar Shemesh wrote: >>> You can probably find it under /proc/$SSH_AGENT_PID/fd. > > I see there: > > lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 8 15:00 0 -> /dev/null > lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 8 15:00 1 -> /dev/null > lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 8 15:00 2 -> /dev/null > lrwx------ 1 root root 64 Jan 8 15:00 3 -> 'socket:[14326]' > > >>> With that said, I'm not sure whether that brings you any closer >>> to recovering it. Maybe a move (the syscall, not the command line) >>> from there to $SSH_AUTH_SOCK? > > Also, to answer Uri: > > Because it's there. > the only way i can think about, is: 1. create a new socket file with the same ownership and permissions as before under /tmp 2. attach gdb to your running ssh-agent, with a script to make it open a new file descriptor to the new file, and use 'dup' to duplicate it on top of the existing file descriptor. the reason that it should be a dup, is in case ssh-agent uses select() or poll() or something similar to learn of that socket being active. i'm not sure this will work - you may want to check this on a stand-alone ssh-agent that will listen on a different socket file in a different path. --guy From linux-il at shimi.net Sun Jan 9 04:13:45 2022 From: linux-il at shimi.net (shimi) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 04:13:45 +0200 Subject: recover ssh-agent socket In-Reply-To: <3093242f-ba06-77b6-9b1f-2aad3bf073e0@shemesh.biz> References: <3093242f-ba06-77b6-9b1f-2aad3bf073e0@shemesh.biz> Message-ID: On Sat, 8 Jan 2022, 13:24 Shachar Shemesh, wrote: > You can probably find it under /proc/$SSH_AGENT_PID/fd. > > > With that said, I'm not sure whether that brings you any closer to > recovering it. Maybe a move (the syscall, not the command line) from there > to $SSH_AUTH_SOCK? > > Wouldn't ln -s /proc/$SSH_AGENT_PID/fd/ $SSH_AUTH_SOCK achieve the /purpose/ of the OP (even if without actually creating a socket file)? Assuming I understand correctly the purpose... -- Shimi > > Shachar > > > On 08/01/2022 11:06, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > > Hi, > > I accidentally deleted my ssh-agent's socket from /tmp. The agent is > still running and I have $SSH_AGENT_PID and $SSH_AUTH_SOCK set in > various processes, so I know where it should have been. > > Is there any way to recover the socket? Short of restarting the X > session, of course. > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Could you just spawn a new ssh-agent instance and have it use $SSH_AUTO_SOCK as the name of the socket, and re-add private keys to it? $SSH_AGENT_PID would still point at the old instance, sure, but what would that break? From linux-il at didi.bardavid.org Sun Jan 9 10:13:54 2022 From: linux-il at didi.bardavid.org (Yedidyah Bar David) Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2022 10:13:54 +0200 Subject: recover ssh-agent socket In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 9, 2022 at 8:11 AM Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > Tzafrir Cohen wrote on Sat, 08 Jan 2022 09:06 +00:00: > > I accidentally deleted my ssh-agent's socket from /tmp. The agent is > > still running and I have $SSH_AGENT_PID and $SSH_AUTH_SOCK set in > > various processes, so I know where it should have been. > > > > Is there any way to recover the socket? Short of restarting the X > > session, of course. > > Could you just spawn a new ssh-agent instance and have it use > $SSH_AUTO_SOCK as the name of the socket, and re-add private keys to it? > $SSH_AGENT_PID would still point at the old instance, sure, but what > would that break? In the past, I did something similar, which partially worked - I started a new ssh-agent with its defaults, and linked the newly-created socket to the old location. Actually what I did was in a slightly different flow - I had my X session killed for some reason, but had screen/tmux sessions in the background. I logged in again to a new X session, attached the screen/tmux's, and wanted to be able to start X clients/windows from shells there. I don't remember anymore what didn't work perfectly, but I do remember that I eventually closed the old screen/tmux's and started new ones, due to some annoyances I didn't bother debugging further. Good luck, -- Didi From erez0001 at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 19:30:55 2022 From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:30:55 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem Message-ID: I've encountered a network problem i have a mac and a win10 machine connected to a 4 port Gbit wifi6 AP (switch mode). a third eth from the AP goes to the router which is also a DHCP server everything works well until the mac goes to sleep. when the mac goes to sleep, the win10 machine looses it's ip address which becomes a 169. address as soon as i wake the mac up, the win machine regain a valid 10.0.0.x ip i tried to replace the AP with a 4 port switch and got same results any idea ? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Mon Jan 10 19:42:13 2022 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:42:13 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20220110194213.09cdb32e@shlomo1.solomon> Not familiar with MAC, but is it possible the MAC is acting as a domain master or a DHCP server? On Mon, 10 Jan 2022 19:30:55 +0200 Erez D wrote: > I've encountered a network problem > > i have a mac and a win10 machine connected to a 4 port Gbit wifi6 AP > (switch mode). > a third eth from the AP goes to the router which is also a DHCP server > > everything works well until the mac goes to sleep. > when the mac goes to sleep, the win10 machine looses it's ip address > which becomes a 169. address > > as soon as i wake the mac up, the win machine regain a valid 10.0.0.x > ip > > i tried to replace the AP with a 4 port switch and got same results > > > any idea ? -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Claws Mail 3.17.5 - KDE Plasma 5.18.5 - Kubuntu 20.04 From borissh1983 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 08:34:48 2022 From: borissh1983 at gmail.com (borissh1983 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 08:34:48 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem References: Message-ID: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> On Monday, 10 January 2022 19:30:55 IST Erez D wrote: > I've encountered a network problem > > i have a mac and a win10 machine connected to a 4 port Gbit wifi6 AP > (switch mode). > a third eth from the AP goes to the router which is also a DHCP server > > everything works well until the mac goes to sleep. > when the mac goes to sleep, the win10 machine looses it's ip address > which becomes a 169. address > > as soon as i wake the mac up, the win machine regain a valid 10.0.0.x ip > > i tried to replace the AP with a 4 port switch and got same results > > > any idea ? > IP in the 169.254.0.0/16 range is related to bonjour protocol , it is a link local communication. your windows would move to a bonjur ip in many cases but most common that can happen if your machine has a bonjour service enabled and an Ethernet card with dhcp that can not get an ip from the router. 1. Check if when the mac is running your windows machine got it's ip from the mac and not from the router. in some cases mac can have dhcpd running on it, if that is the case you should disable it if you do not need it. 2. Check if homegroup is enabled on win10, if it is disable it (by version 1803 it is no longer active by default, but you could have hacked to enable it). From erez0001 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 09:18:47 2022 From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:18:47 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem In-Reply-To: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> References: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> Message-ID: The windows 169.25. ip is from APIPA and not from any DHCP server (ipconfig does not specify a dhcp server). to be on the safe side I verified udp port 67 is unused on my mac (via netstat, fuser and socat) what boggles me is why can't the window machine access the router and get an ip when the mac is sleeping as the AP switch is layer 2, i would susspect the switch disables the windows machin for some reason, e.g. it sees the same mac address from another port or detects abuse of somewhat from the windows eth port however i do not understand how is this related to the mac sleeping I thought the AP switch maybe defective but puting another GB switch instead causes the same results ... why do you thing HOMEGROUP is related ? it is a higher layer protocol when the problems seems to me on layer 2 Thanks, Erez On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:36 AM wrote: > On Monday, 10 January 2022 19:30:55 IST Erez D wrote: > > I've encountered a network problem > > > > i have a mac and a win10 machine connected to a 4 port Gbit wifi6 AP > > (switch mode). > > a third eth from the AP goes to the router which is also a DHCP server > > > > everything works well until the mac goes to sleep. > > when the mac goes to sleep, the win10 machine looses it's ip address > > which becomes a 169. address > > > > as soon as i wake the mac up, the win machine regain a valid 10.0.0.x ip > > > > i tried to replace the AP with a 4 port switch and got same results > > > > > > any idea ? > > > > IP in the 169.254.0.0/16 range is related to bonjour protocol , it is a > link local communication. > > your windows would move to a bonjur ip in many cases but most common that > can happen if your machine has a bonjour service enabled and an Ethernet > card with dhcp that can not get an ip from the router. > > 1. Check if when the mac is running your windows machine got it's ip from > the mac and not from the router. in some cases mac can have dhcpd running > on it, if that is the case you should disable it if you do not need it. > 2. Check if homegroup is enabled on win10, if it is disable it (by version > 1803 it is no longer active by default, but you could have hacked to enable > it). > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ohadlevy at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 09:29:22 2022 From: ohadlevy at gmail.com (Ohad Levy) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 09:29:22 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem In-Reply-To: References: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:19 AM Erez D wrote: > The windows 169.25. ip is from APIPA and not from any DHCP server > (ipconfig does not specify a dhcp server). > to be on the safe side I verified udp port 67 is unused on my mac (via > netstat, fuser and socat) > > what boggles me is why can't the window machine access the router and get > an ip when the mac is sleeping > > as the AP switch is layer 2, i would susspect the switch disables the > windows machin for some reason, > e.g. it sees the same mac address from another port or detects abuse of > somewhat from the windows eth port > however i do not understand how is this related to the mac sleeping > > I thought the AP switch maybe defective but puting another GB switch > instead causes the same results ... > can you run tcpdump on your router? does it show the dhcp requests from your windows machine? > > why do you thing HOMEGROUP is related ? it is a higher layer protocol when > the problems seems to me on layer 2 > > Thanks, > Erez > > > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:36 AM wrote: > >> On Monday, 10 January 2022 19:30:55 IST Erez D wrote: >> > I've encountered a network problem >> > >> > i have a mac and a win10 machine connected to a 4 port Gbit wifi6 AP >> > (switch mode). >> > a third eth from the AP goes to the router which is also a DHCP server >> > >> > everything works well until the mac goes to sleep. >> > when the mac goes to sleep, the win10 machine looses it's ip address >> > which becomes a 169. address >> > >> > as soon as i wake the mac up, the win machine regain a valid 10.0.0.x ip >> > >> > i tried to replace the AP with a 4 port switch and got same results >> > >> > >> > any idea ? >> > >> >> IP in the 169.254.0.0/16 range is related to bonjour protocol , it is a >> link local communication. >> >> your windows would move to a bonjur ip in many cases but most common that >> can happen if your machine has a bonjour service enabled and an Ethernet >> card with dhcp that can not get an ip from the router. >> >> 1. Check if when the mac is running your windows machine got it's ip from >> the mac and not from the router. in some cases mac can have dhcpd running >> on it, if that is the case you should disable it if you do not need it. >> 2. Check if homegroup is enabled on win10, if it is disable it (by >> version 1803 it is no longer active by default, but you could have hacked >> to enable it). >> >> >> _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From erez0001 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 11:26:26 2022 From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:26:26 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem In-Reply-To: References: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:29 AM Ohad Levy wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:19 AM Erez D wrote: > >> The windows 169.25. ip is from APIPA and not from any DHCP server >> (ipconfig does not specify a dhcp server). >> to be on the safe side I verified udp port 67 is unused on my mac (via >> netstat, fuser and socat) >> >> what boggles me is why can't the window machine access the router and get >> an ip when the mac is sleeping >> >> as the AP switch is layer 2, i would susspect the switch disables the >> windows machin for some reason, >> e.g. it sees the same mac address from another port or detects abuse of >> somewhat from the windows eth port >> however i do not understand how is this related to the mac sleeping >> >> I thought the AP switch maybe defective but puting another GB switch >> instead causes the same results ... >> > > can you run tcpdump on your router? does it show the dhcp requests from > your windows machine? > Alas, No. I know it is sacrilege but I use a hot cable modem/router. I do not have hardware that can support 500Mb to be used as a linux firewall ... Thanks, Erez. >> why do you thing HOMEGROUP is related ? it is a higher layer protocol >> when the problems seems to me on layer 2 >> >> Thanks, >> Erez >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:36 AM wrote: >> >>> On Monday, 10 January 2022 19:30:55 IST Erez D wrote: >>> > I've encountered a network problem >>> > >>> > i have a mac and a win10 machine connected to a 4 port Gbit wifi6 AP >>> > (switch mode). >>> > a third eth from the AP goes to the router which is also a DHCP server >>> > >>> > everything works well until the mac goes to sleep. >>> > when the mac goes to sleep, the win10 machine looses it's ip address >>> > which becomes a 169. address >>> > >>> > as soon as i wake the mac up, the win machine regain a valid 10.0.0.x >>> ip >>> > >>> > i tried to replace the AP with a 4 port switch and got same results >>> > >>> > >>> > any idea ? >>> > >>> >>> IP in the 169.254.0.0/16 range is related to bonjour protocol , it is >>> a link local communication. >>> >>> your windows would move to a bonjur ip in many cases but most common >>> that can happen if your machine has a bonjour service enabled and an >>> Ethernet card with dhcp that can not get an ip from the router. >>> >>> 1. Check if when the mac is running your windows machine got it's ip >>> from the mac and not from the router. in some cases mac can have dhcpd >>> running on it, if that is the case you should disable it if you do not need >>> it. >>> 2. Check if homegroup is enabled on win10, if it is disable it (by >>> version 1803 it is no longer active by default, but you could have hacked >>> to enable it). >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From borissh1983 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 11:27:40 2022 From: borissh1983 at gmail.com (borissh1983 at gmail.com) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:27:40 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem References: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> Message-ID: <6416205.t2KHyd3y7u@beast> On Tuesday, 11 January 2022 9:18:47 IST Erez D wrote: > The windows 169.25. ip is from APIPA and not from any DHCP server (ipconfig > does not specify a dhcp server). Thank you for your enhancement, and more specific explanation. I was wrong ,it's APIPA which implement it and not the bonjour service. > to be on the safe side I verified udp port 67 is unused on my mac (via > netstat, fuser and socat) > > what boggles me is why can't the window machine access the router and get > an ip when the mac is sleeping > He may be getting the ip and routing *from* the mac itself (mac running dhcp server). > as the AP switch is layer 2, i would susspect the switch disables the > windows machin for some reason, > e.g. it sees the same mac address from another port or detects abuse of > somewhat from the windows eth port > however i do not understand how is this related to the mac sleeping > > I thought the AP switch maybe defective but puting another GB switch > instead causes the same results ... > > why do you thing HOMEGROUP is related ? it is a higher layer protocol when > the problems seems to me on layer 2 > homegroup is effectively a vpn , it's easy to make mistake there (speaking from experience) and lock yourself from the local network at home. > Thanks, > Erez > > > From mark.e.fuller at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 11:39:34 2022 From: mark.e.fuller at gmail.com (Mark E. Fuller) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 11:39:34 +0200 Subject: Fork from "OT: strange network problem" In-Reply-To: References: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> Message-ID: <61dd5059.1c69fb81.62ffb.f068@mx.google.com> On 11/01/2022 11:26, Erez D wrote: > > Alas, No. I know it is sacrilege but I use a hot cable modem/router. > I do not have hardware that can support 500Mb to be used as a linux > firewall ... Being an Oleh Hadash who just wanted to hit the easy button six months ago, I also have the Hot modem/router. It lease a bit to be desired, e.g. I could figure out how to properly get it to use my PiHole as the DNS server on my home network (could never find the option in the software), and I also couldn't get it to just run as a modem and let me use my old German DSL modem/router (a FritzBox and another easy button moment) as the home network router (because I could at least configure that to my heart's content). So, are there suggestions/recommendations for how to reconfigure things, especially as pertains to hardware running OpenWRT or another free/libre alternative? > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il Thanks all, Fuller Mark E. Fuller, Ph.D. HaShikma 19, Apt. 24 Nesher 3681219, Israel +972 (0)53-872-6579 +49 (0)1577 1848188 +1 401-214-4266 mark.e.fuller at gmail.com mark.e.fuller at gmx.de fuller at stossrohr.net @fuller:one.ems.host https://www.stossrohr.net PGP Fingerprint: 73F1 A30C BDF4 DB4B C75F FD0F D599 E76C FFCA BF60 From yigalasnis at yahoo.com Tue Jan 11 14:46:10 2022 From: yigalasnis at yahoo.com (Yigal) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:46:10 +0200 Subject: Fork from "OT: strange network problem" In-Reply-To: <61dd5059.1c69fb81.62ffb.f068@mx.google.com> References: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> <61dd5059.1c69fb81.62ffb.f068@mx.google.com> Message-ID: <69fd727b-0c52-ae49-f76e-95f112af1f5d@yahoo.com> If you have HotBox 4 or older, you can switch it to "bridge mode" (via its web-interface), which is "just a modem" mode. On 1/11/22 11:39, Mark E. Fuller wrote: > > On 11/01/2022 11:26, Erez D wrote: > > >> >> Alas, No. I know it is sacrilege but I use a hot cable modem/router. >> I do not have hardware that can support 500Mb to be used as a linux >> firewall ... > > Being an Oleh Hadash who just wanted to hit the easy button six months > ago, I also have the Hot modem/router. > It lease a bit to be desired, e.g. I could figure out how to properly > get it to use my PiHole as the DNS server on my home network (could > never find the option in the software), and I also couldn't get it to > just run as a modem and let me use my old German DSL modem/router (a > FritzBox and another easy button moment) as the home network router > (because I could at least configure that to my heart's content). > > So, are there suggestions/recommendations for how to reconfigure things, > especially as pertains to hardware running OpenWRT or another free/libre > alternative? > > > > >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > > Thanks all, > Fuller > > > Mark E. Fuller, Ph.D. > HaShikma 19, Apt. 24 > Nesher 3681219, Israel > +972 (0)53-872-6579 > +49 (0)1577 1848188 > +1 401-214-4266 > mark.e.fuller at gmail.com > mark.e.fuller at gmx.de > fuller at stossrohr.net > @fuller:one.ems.host > https://www.stossrohr.net > PGP Fingerprint: 73F1 A30C BDF4 DB4B C75F FD0F D599 E76C FFCA BF60 > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il From maayan.eshed at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 14:56:35 2022 From: maayan.eshed at gmail.com (Maayan Eshed) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:56:35 +0200 Subject: OT: looking for a job Message-ID: Hello guys and girls I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle (is LinkedIn a real thing?) As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I am. So: *C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways:* *Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.)* I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really just a wish and not a demand. Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you teach me from scratch may be fine. *Skills*: nothing unusual: I can Bash, I can Vi. git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff sometimes (; I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never deployed on a job. I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal purposes. I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: But I think you get the idea. Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if you teach well and pay well for it. I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use it. Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, with masks fully on. Maybe. Depends. Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something relevant. Cheers Ma'ayan. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ohadlevy at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 15:14:06 2022 From: ohadlevy at gmail.com (Ohad Levy) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 15:14:06 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem In-Reply-To: References: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:26 AM Erez D wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:29 AM Ohad Levy wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:19 AM Erez D wrote: >> >>> The windows 169.25. ip is from APIPA and not from any DHCP server >>> (ipconfig does not specify a dhcp server). >>> to be on the safe side I verified udp port 67 is unused on my mac (via >>> netstat, fuser and socat) >>> >>> what boggles me is why can't the window machine access the router and >>> get an ip when the mac is sleeping >>> >>> as the AP switch is layer 2, i would susspect the switch disables the >>> windows machin for some reason, >>> e.g. it sees the same mac address from another port or detects abuse of >>> somewhat from the windows eth port >>> however i do not understand how is this related to the mac sleeping >>> >>> I thought the AP switch maybe defective but puting another GB switch >>> instead causes the same results ... >>> >> >> can you run tcpdump on your router? does it show the dhcp requests from >> your windows machine? >> > Alas, No. I know it is sacrilege but I use a hot cable modem/router. > I do not have hardware that can support 500Mb to be used as a linux > firewall ... > openwrt :) but technically, if you have a 3rd machine, you should be able to see dhcp requests being broadcasted on layer2 > > Thanks, > Erez. > > >>> why do you thing HOMEGROUP is related ? it is a higher layer protocol >>> when the problems seems to me on layer 2 >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Erez >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:36 AM wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, 10 January 2022 19:30:55 IST Erez D wrote: >>>> > I've encountered a network problem >>>> > >>>> > i have a mac and a win10 machine connected to a 4 port Gbit wifi6 AP >>>> > (switch mode). >>>> > a third eth from the AP goes to the router which is also a DHCP server >>>> > >>>> > everything works well until the mac goes to sleep. >>>> > when the mac goes to sleep, the win10 machine looses it's ip address >>>> > which becomes a 169. address >>>> > >>>> > as soon as i wake the mac up, the win machine regain a valid 10.0.0.x >>>> ip >>>> > >>>> > i tried to replace the AP with a 4 port switch and got same results >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > any idea ? >>>> > >>>> >>>> IP in the 169.254.0.0/16 range is related to bonjour protocol , it is >>>> a link local communication. >>>> >>>> your windows would move to a bonjur ip in many cases but most common >>>> that can happen if your machine has a bonjour service enabled and an >>>> Ethernet card with dhcp that can not get an ip from the router. >>>> >>>> 1. 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URL: From erez0001 at gmail.com Tue Jan 11 17:36:25 2022 From: erez0001 at gmail.com (Erez D) Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2022 17:36:25 +0200 Subject: OT: strange network problem In-Reply-To: References: <2572571.ppKCacahc4@beast> Message-ID: On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:14 PM Ohad Levy wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:26 AM Erez D wrote: > >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:29 AM Ohad Levy wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 9:19 AM Erez D wrote: >>> >>>> The windows 169.25. ip is from APIPA and not from any DHCP server >>>> (ipconfig does not specify a dhcp server). >>>> to be on the safe side I verified udp port 67 is unused on my mac (via >>>> netstat, fuser and socat) >>>> >>>> what boggles me is why can't the window machine access the router and >>>> get an ip when the mac is sleeping >>>> >>>> as the AP switch is layer 2, i would susspect the switch disables the >>>> windows machin for some reason, >>>> e.g. it sees the same mac address from another port or detects abuse of >>>> somewhat from the windows eth port >>>> however i do not understand how is this related to the mac sleeping >>>> >>>> I thought the AP switch maybe defective but puting another GB switch >>>> instead causes the same results ... >>>> >>> >>> can you run tcpdump on your router? does it show the dhcp requests from >>> your windows machine? >>> >> Alas, No. I know it is sacrilege but I use a hot cable modem/router. >> I do not have hardware that can support 500Mb to be used as a linux >> firewall ... >> > openwrt :) > I'm probably getting old, in my time running openwrt required hardware to run on ;-) > > but technically, if you have a 3rd machine, you should be able to see dhcp > requests being broadcasted on layer2 > > I'll try that though i do not understand why there should be a difference if my mac is up or not ... Thanks > >> Thanks, >> Erez. >> >> >>>> why do you thing HOMEGROUP is related ? it is a higher layer protocol >>>> when the problems seems to me on layer 2 >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Erez >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 8:36 AM wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Monday, 10 January 2022 19:30:55 IST Erez D wrote: >>>>> > I've encountered a network problem >>>>> > >>>>> > i have a mac and a win10 machine connected to a 4 port Gbit wifi6 AP >>>>> > (switch mode). >>>>> > a third eth from the AP goes to the router which is also a DHCP >>>>> server >>>>> > >>>>> > everything works well until the mac goes to sleep. >>>>> > when the mac goes to sleep, the win10 machine looses it's ip address >>>>> > which becomes a 169. address >>>>> > >>>>> > as soon as i wake the mac up, the win machine regain a valid >>>>> 10.0.0.x ip >>>>> > >>>>> > i tried to replace the AP with a 4 port switch and got same results >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > any idea ? >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> IP in the 169.254.0.0/16 range is related to bonjour protocol , it >>>>> is a link local communication. >>>>> >>>>> your windows would move to a bonjur ip in many cases but most common >>>>> that can happen if your machine has a bonjour service enabled and an >>>>> Ethernet card with dhcp that can not get an ip from the router. >>>>> >>>>> 1. Check if when the mac is running your windows machine got it's ip >>>>> from the mac and not from the router. in some cases mac can have dhcpd >>>>> running on it, if that is the case you should disable it if you do not need >>>>> it. >>>>> 2. Check if homegroup is enabled on win10, if it is disable it (by >>>>> version 1803 it is no longer active by default, but you could have hacked >>>>> to enable it). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Linux-il mailing list >>>> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >>>> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>>> >>> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Wed Jan 12 10:51:47 2022 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 03:51:47 -0500 Subject: OT: looking for a job In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20220112035147.74e0eea2@mydesk.domain.cxm> Hi Ma'ayan, I really feel for you. Under slightly different circumstances I'd be in the exact same situation as you. I can't offer you any work here at Troubleshooters.Com because I do everything myself. About all I can do is offer you a 12% commission on book orders you refer to me. Steve (Litt, from Orlando Florida USA) Maayan Eshed said on Tue, 11 Jan 2022 14:56:35 +0200 >Hello guys and girls >I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a >long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still >active in my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a >propper channle (is LinkedIn a real thing?) > >As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing >non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, >here I am. So: > >*C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both >ways:* > >*Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without >catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.)* >I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really >just a wish and not a demand. >Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you >teach me from scratch may be fine. > >*Skills*: nothing unusual: >I can Bash, I can Vi. >git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. >I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff >sometimes (; >I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never >deployed on a job. >I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal >purposes. >I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work >before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware >hotspots (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). > >Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: >But I think you get the idea. >Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if >you teach well and pay well for it. > >I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use >it. Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but >would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, >with masks fully on. Maybe. Depends. > >Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something >relevant. >Cheers >Ma'ayan. From linux-il at didi.bardavid.org Wed Jan 12 11:57:14 2022 From: linux-il at didi.bardavid.org (Yedidyah Bar David) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 11:57:14 +0200 Subject: OT: looking for a job In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Maayan, Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list and searching LinkedIn. Why not both? I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, and I wouldn't be surprised if I heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are through/thanks to it. I have absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such as job retention when through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have jobs that can suit you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 people now and is growing quite quickly. Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there that some old acquaintance moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an advertisement for Red Hat. I considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's ok... Good luck and best regards, -- Didi From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 12:15:32 2022 From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 14:15:32 +0400 Subject: OT: looking for a job In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Didi, you made a great suggestion for Maayan: Maayan, you could use LinkedIn to see if anyone you know is working at a place that's interesting to you, and then reach out to them. A personal introduction is alway so much better than a cold call, even if you have to go through the formal application process. On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:58 PM Yedidyah Bar David < linux-il at didi.bardavid.org> wrote: > Hi Maayan, > > Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list > and searching LinkedIn. > Why not both? > > I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, > and I wouldn't be surprised if I > heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are > through/thanks to it. I have > absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such > as job retention when > through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). > > I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have > jobs that can suit > you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 > people now and is > growing quite quickly. > > Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there > that some old acquaintance > moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... > > To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an > advertisement for Red Hat. I > considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's > ok... > > Good luck and best regards, > -- > Didi > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From maayan.eshed at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 13:40:48 2022 From: maayan.eshed at gmail.com (Maayan Eshed) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 13:40:48 +0200 Subject: OT: looking for a job In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Didi and Micha Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (: I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR waste of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for social networks. If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll reopen the account there with less reluctance. Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers. I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying. You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (: Ma'ayan On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David wrote: > Hi Maayan, > > Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list > and searching LinkedIn. > Why not both? > > I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, > and I wouldn't be surprised if I > heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are > through/thanks to it. I have > absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such > as job retention when > through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). > > I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have > jobs that can suit > you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 > people now and is > growing quite quickly. > > Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there > that some old acquaintance > moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... > > To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an > advertisement for Red Hat. I > considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's > ok... > > Good luck and best regards, > -- > Didi > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed > wrote: > > > > Hello guys and girls > > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a > long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in > my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle > (is LinkedIn a real thing?) > > > > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing > non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I > am. So: > > > > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways: > > > > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without > catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.) > > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really just > a wish and not a demand. > > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you > teach me from scratch may be fine. > > > > Skills: nothing unusual: > > I can Bash, I can Vi. > > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. > > I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff > sometimes (; > > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never > deployed on a job. > > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal > purposes. > > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work > before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots > (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). > > > > Am I embarrasing myself right now? 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URL: From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com Wed Jan 12 13:57:43 2022 From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:57:43 +0400 Subject: OT: looking for a job In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Maayan, I agree with you that LinkedIn is a social network and I suppose if I were a purist I wouldn't use it. But I feel that the benefits are useful and it's not nearly as offensive or dangerous as YouTube or Facebook, so I tolerate them. Good luck in your search and let us know what you find! On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:40 PM Maayan Eshed wrote: > Hi Didi and Micha > Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good > workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (: > > I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR waste > of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for social > networks. > If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll reopen > the account there with less reluctance. > > Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers. > I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying. > > You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (: > > Ma'ayan > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David > wrote: > >> Hi Maayan, >> >> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list >> and searching LinkedIn. >> Why not both? >> >> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, >> and I wouldn't be surprised if I >> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are >> through/thanks to it. I have >> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such >> as job retention when >> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). >> >> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have >> jobs that can suit >> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 >> people now and is >> growing quite quickly. >> >> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there >> that some old acquaintance >> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... >> >> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an >> advertisement for Red Hat. I >> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's >> ok... >> >> Good luck and best regards, >> -- >> Didi >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed >> wrote: >> > >> > Hello guys and girls >> > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a >> long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in >> my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle >> (is LinkedIn a real thing?) >> > >> > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing >> non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I >> am. So: >> > >> > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways: >> > >> > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without >> catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.) >> > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really >> just a wish and not a demand. >> > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you >> teach me from scratch may be fine. >> > >> > Skills: nothing unusual: >> > I can Bash, I can Vi. >> > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. >> > I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff >> sometimes (; >> > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never >> deployed on a job. >> > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal >> purposes. >> > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work >> before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots >> (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). >> > >> > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: >> > But I think you get the idea. >> > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if >> you teach well and pay well for it. >> > >> > I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use it. >> > Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but >> would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, with >> masks fully on. Maybe. Depends. >> > >> > Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something >> relevant. >> > Cheers >> > Ma'ayan. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Linux-il mailing list >> > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Jan 13 03:32:20 2022 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0500 Subject: Inkscape Presentation at Phoenix LUG 1/13/2022 Message-ID: <20220112203209.3fdfa6bd@mydesk.domain.cxm> Hi all, For anyone who missed my Inkscape presentation but wants to see it, I'm giving it again at the monthly Phoenix (Arizona USA) LUG (PLUG) meeting 1/13/2022 at 7pm **Mountain Time** (Phoenix, Denver, and Salt Lake City USA time). You can see details at http://troubleshooters.com/lugs/phoenixlug/ Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt Spring 2021 featured book: Troubleshooting Techniques of the Successful Technologist http://www.troubleshooters.com/techniques From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Jan 13 03:38:37 2022 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:38:37 -0500 Subject: Inkscape Presentation at Phoenix LUG 1/13/2022 In-Reply-To: <20220112203209.3fdfa6bd@mydesk.domain.cxm> References: <20220112203209.3fdfa6bd@mydesk.domain.cxm> Message-ID: <20220112203837.7c4f88eb@mydesk.domain.cxm> I forgot to mention, this is for those of you who are second shift workers or very early risers :-). SteveT Steve Litt said on Wed, 12 Jan 2022 20:32:20 -0500 >Hi all, > >For anyone who missed my Inkscape presentation but wants to see it, I'm >giving it again at the monthly Phoenix (Arizona USA) LUG (PLUG) meeting >1/13/2022 at 7pm **Mountain Time** (Phoenix, Denver, and Salt Lake City >USA time). > >You can see details at http://troubleshooters.com/lugs/phoenixlug/ > >Thanks, > >SteveT From slitt at troubleshooters.com Thu Jan 13 09:00:56 2022 From: slitt at troubleshooters.com (Steve Litt) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 02:00:56 -0500 Subject: OT: looking for a job In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20220113020056.59218b0c@mydesk.domain.cxm> Fortunately, right now supply and demand greatly favors the job applicant, so getting your name out there just might be sufficient to land a good job that can be done without risk of infection. LinkedIn is one way to do that. After running Troubleshooters.Com for the last 20 years, about all I'm qualified for is running Troubleshooters.Com or being a corporate trainer, yet LinkedIn keeps sending me possible jobs, and every week 3 to 5 companies view my LinkedIn page. I'm pretty sure if I tweaked my resume to show my Python skills, my familiarity with C, my knowledge of HTML and CSS, and my Troubleshooting skills and knowledge, all of which are quite separate and in a normal job market would have employers saying "jack of all trades", in this job market I'd get lots of queries. But of course, I like running Troubleshooters.Com. SteveT Michael Shiloh said on Wed, 12 Jan 2022 15:57:43 +0400 >Hi Maayan, > >I agree with you that LinkedIn is a social network and I suppose if I >were a purist I wouldn't use it. But I feel that the benefits are >useful and it's not nearly as offensive or dangerous as YouTube or >Facebook, so I tolerate them. > >Good luck in your search and let us know what you find! > >On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 3:40 PM Maayan Eshed >wrote: > >> Hi Didi and Micha >> Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good >> workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (: >> >> I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR >> waste of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for >> social networks. >> If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll >> reopen the account there with less reluctance. >> >> Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers. >> I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying. >> >> You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (: >> >> Ma'ayan >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Maayan, >>> >>> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list >>> and searching LinkedIn. >>> Why not both? >>> >>> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, >>> and I wouldn't be surprised if I >>> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel >>> are through/thanks to it. I have >>> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications >>> (such as job retention when >>> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). >>> >>> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have >>> jobs that can suit >>> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ >>> 500 people now and is >>> growing quite quickly. >>> >>> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed >>> there that some old acquaintance >>> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as >>> well... >>> >>> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an >>> advertisement for Red Hat. I >>> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope >>> that's ok... >>> >>> Good luck and best regards, >>> -- >>> Didi >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > Hello guys and girls >>> > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline >>> > for a >>> long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still >>> active in my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to >>> a propper channle (is LinkedIn a real thing?) >>> > >>> > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily >>> > doing >>> non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, >>> here I am. So: >>> > >>> > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both >>> > ways: >>> > >>> > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without >>> > >>> catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.) >>> > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats >>> > really >>> just a wish and not a demand. >>> > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something >>> > you >>> teach me from scratch may be fine. >>> > >>> > Skills: nothing unusual: >>> > I can Bash, I can Vi. >>> > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some >>> > reminding. I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even >>> > uninstall stuff >>> sometimes (; >>> > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but >>> > never >>> deployed on a job. >>> > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and >>> > personal >>> purposes. >>> > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to >>> > work >>> before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware >>> hotspots (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and >>> specks). >>> > >>> > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: >>> > But I think you get the idea. >>> > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially >>> > if >>> you teach well and pay well for it. >>> > >>> > I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to >>> > use it. Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at >>> > all, but >>> would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, >>> with masks fully on. Maybe. Depends. >>> > >>> > Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have >>> > something >>> relevant. >>> > Cheers >>> > Ma'ayan. >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Linux-il mailing list >>> > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >>> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> From mark.e.fuller at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 12:12:17 2022 From: mark.e.fuller at gmail.com (Mark E. Fuller) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:12:17 +0200 Subject: Introduction Message-ID: <61dffb02.1c69fb81.74562.465d@mx.google.com> Hi all, sorry if I failed to do this earlier - I thought I had already introduced myself, but based on a few recent conversations in seems that I likely did not. I'm Mark Fuller (fuller or mefuller most places), an Oleh Hadash (May 2021) from the US via way of Germany. I presently work as a postdoc at the Technion doing research on combustion and fuel chemistry. I've primarily been an experimentalist, but have gotten much more into software development and scientific computing having long been the only guy in the lab who used Linux or could do data analysis with more automation that copy-pasting in Excel. I'm a long-time Linux user and FOSS enthusiast (first used Debian at university in 2006) and I have been part of the Fedora Project since 2010 where I have done some translations (German), and am just now getting into packaging. I'm very much looking to continue drifting professionally and learn/apply more lessons about good development practices to the scientific software to which I contribute, since much of it is pretty rough around the edges. Regards, fuller -- Mark E. Fuller, Ph.D. HaShikma 19, Apt. 24 Nesher 3681219, Israel +972 (0)53-872-6579 +49 (0)1577 1848188 +1 401-214-4266 mark.e.fuller at gmail.com mark.e.fuller at gmx.de fuller at stossrohr.net @fuller:one.ems.host https://www.stossrohr.net PGP Fingerprint: 73F1 A30C BDF4 DB4B C75F FD0F D599 E76C FFCA BF60 From michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 12:23:46 2022 From: michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com (Michael Shiloh) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 14:23:46 +0400 Subject: Introduction In-Reply-To: <61dffb02.1c69fb81.74562.465d@mx.google.com> References: <61dffb02.1c69fb81.74562.465d@mx.google.com> Message-ID: Cool stuff Mark! Very nice to meet you. Your research sounds interesting. On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 2:13 PM Mark E. Fuller wrote: > Hi all, > > sorry if I failed to do this earlier - I thought I had already > introduced myself, but based on a few recent conversations in seems that > I likely did not. > > I'm Mark Fuller (fuller or mefuller most places), an Oleh Hadash (May > 2021) from the US via way of Germany. > I presently work as a postdoc at the Technion doing research on > combustion and fuel chemistry. I've primarily been an experimentalist, > but have gotten much more into software development and scientific > computing having long been the only guy in the lab who used Linux or > could do data analysis with more automation that copy-pasting in Excel. > I'm a long-time Linux user and FOSS enthusiast (first used Debian at > university in 2006) and I have been part of the Fedora Project since > 2010 where I have done some translations (German), and am just now > getting into packaging. > > I'm very much looking to continue drifting professionally and > learn/apply more lessons about good development practices to the > scientific software to which I contribute, since much of it is pretty > rough around the edges. > > Regards, > fuller > > -- > Mark E. Fuller, Ph.D. > HaShikma 19, Apt. 24 > Nesher 3681219, Israel > +972 (0)53-872-6579 > +49 (0)1577 1848188 > +1 401-214-4266 > mark.e.fuller at gmail.com > mark.e.fuller at gmx.de > fuller at stossrohr.net > @fuller:one.ems.host > https://www.stossrohr.net > PGP Fingerprint: 73F1 A30C BDF4 DB4B C75F FD0F D599 E76C FFCA BF60 > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tewner at gmail.com Thu Jan 13 12:49:12 2022 From: tewner at gmail.com (Michael Tewner) Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2022 12:49:12 +0200 Subject: OT: looking for a job In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I understand your dislike for Social Networks, but as a hiring manager at my current position, the first thing I did was try to find you on LinkedIn. Not having a LinkedIn profile is going to make it unnecessarily more difficult to find a position. You don't need to post anything, you don't need to read anyone's else's posts; I do highly recommend, though, that you have a well thought-out (and updated) profile on LinkedIn. On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 1:40 PM Maayan Eshed wrote: > Hi Didi and Micha > Your reply is kind and valid. And you made RedHat sound like a good > workplace. I remember them fondly so I don't mind (: > > I guess I asked about LinkedIn not just to make sure its not a PR/HR waste > of time nowadays, but also because of an inherent dislike for social > networks. > If non of the offers this list has suggested will work out, I'll reopen > the account there with less reluctance. > > Cordial thank you all who has already sent offers. > I'm going through them and considering and slowly replying. > > You are all much appreciated, it makes it actually nice to be back (: > > Ma'ayan > > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 11:55 AM Yedidyah Bar David > wrote: > >> Hi Maayan, >> >> Not sure why you think you must choose between posting to this list >> and searching LinkedIn. >> Why not both? >> >> I am by no means a LinikedIn fan, but it's definitely a real thing, >> and I wouldn't be surprised if I >> heard that tens of percents of all tech job assignments in Israel are >> through/thanks to it. I have >> absolutely no idea about real numbers and/or deeper implications (such >> as job retention when >> through LinkedIn vs otherwise, etc.). >> >> I personally work for Red Hat, for 8+ years now. No idea if we have >> jobs that can suit >> you, but you are welcome to have a look. The Israeli office has ~ 500 >> people now and is >> growing quite quickly. >> >> Incidentally, I also got this job thanks to linkedin - I noticed there >> that some old acquaintance >> moved to Red Hat and thought it might be a good idea for me as well... >> >> To the rest of the list: I hope this doesn't sound like an >> advertisement for Red Hat. I >> considered replying in private and decided it's ok as-is. I hope that's >> ok... >> >> Good luck and best regards, >> -- >> Didi >> >> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:55 PM Maayan Eshed >> wrote: >> > >> > Hello guys and girls >> > I apoiogize if this isn't the place for it, but I've been offline for a >> long time, and this seems to be the only israeli-tech-list still active in >> my mailbox. You are more than wellcome to redirect me to a propper channle >> (is LinkedIn a real thing?) >> > >> > As the headline says - i'm in the market for a job. Been happily doing >> non-tech stuff for the last few years, but with Obiquitus Omicron, here I >> am. So: >> > >> > C.V will be sent per request, here is my general direction, both ways: >> > >> > Desired job includes mainly getting paid for being useful without >> catching COVID (I'm at risk if I catch it.) >> > I would like to do something that I think is cool, but thats really >> just a wish and not a demand. >> > Anything from a short gig to a full time long term at something you >> teach me from scratch may be fine. >> > >> > Skills: nothing unusual: >> > I can Bash, I can Vi. >> > git, Apache and SQL are no strangers though may need some reminding. >> > I can install stuff (OS's, servers, stuff) I can even uninstall stuff >> sometimes (; >> > I have in my past academic programing courses which I enjoyed but never >> deployed on a job. >> > I've been a linux user since the late 90's both for work and personal >> purposes. >> > I have a general understanding of how the internet was said to work >> before street lamp posts started double as amazon-anywhere spyware hotspots >> (generic term, not updated on their trademarks and specks). >> > >> > Am I embarrasing myself right now? Probably (: >> > But I think you get the idea. >> > Old Knowledge, but I can and like to learn and expand. Especially if >> you teach well and pay well for it. >> > >> > I currently live in the north, I have a car and am not afraid to use it. >> > Would rather not be obligated to be exposed to offices at all, but >> would sit with careful and vaccinated bunch in a not-stuffy place, with >> masks fully on. Maybe. Depends. >> > >> > Thanx for reading, thanx for linuxing, lemme know if you have something >> relevant. >> > Cheers >> > Ma'ayan. >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Linux-il mailing list >> > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is a > copyright notice, from 2021. > > Who is now behind iglu? > > Regards > Orna > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ladypine at gmail.com Sat Jan 15 23:44:39 2022 From: ladypine at gmail.com (Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda) Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2022 23:44:39 +0200 Subject: Iglu In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: So I suggest that linux.org.il stops pointing at it as a reference for iglu. We can have an iglu page on linux.org.il, instead. ?????? ???, 15 ????? 2022, 22:42, ??? Yehuda Deutsch ?: > Yeah, it wasn't renewed and it is like this for several years. > > Last time I tried the new owner wasn't willing to sell > > Yehuda > > On Sat, Jan 15, 2022, 14:11 Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda > wrote: > >> Good evening, >> >> I was looking for some linux-il history, and discovered that iglu.org.il >> is under construction, holding no information about iglu. There is a >> copyright notice, from 2021. >> >> Who is now behind iglu? >> >> Regards >> Orna >> _______________________________________________ >> Linux-il mailing list >> Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il >> http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From aschkolnik at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 09:22:48 2022 From: aschkolnik at gmail.com (Aharon Schkolnik) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 09:22:48 +0200 Subject: English Interface (Instead of Hebrew) Message-ID: Hi. When I run commands like gnome-disks I get a Hebrew interface. I would prefer English. If I run LANG=C gnome-disks, I get the English interface I want. So, I edited /etc/locale.conf and put in the line LANG=C if I source /etc/locale.conf, I get my English interface. However when I login, I still get the Hebrew interface env gives me: $env|grep -i lang LANGUAGE=en_US:he LANG=en_US.UTF-8 How can I get LANG to be C when I login? I am running Fedora 35 TIA -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From govershay at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 09:26:02 2022 From: govershay at gmail.com (Shay Gover) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 09:26:02 +0200 Subject: English Interface (Instead of Hebrew) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You need to change gnome settings. On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 9:23 AM Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > Hi. > > When I run commands like gnome-disks I get a Hebrew interface. > > I would prefer English. > > If I run LANG=C gnome-disks, I get the English interface I want. > > So, I edited /etc/locale.conf and put in the line LANG=C > > if I source /etc/locale.conf, I get my English interface. > > However when I login, I still get the Hebrew interface > > env gives me: > > $env|grep -i lang > LANGUAGE=en_US:he > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > > How can I get LANG to be C when I login? > > I am running Fedora 35 > > TIA > > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 09:22, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > Hi. > > When I run commands like gnome-disks I get a Hebrew interface. > > I would prefer English. > > If I run LANG=C gnome-disks, I get the English interface I want. > > So, I edited /etc/locale.conf and put in the line LANG=C > > if I source /etc/locale.conf, I get my English interface. > > However when I login, I still get the Hebrew interface > > env gives me: > > $env|grep -i lang > LANGUAGE=en_US:he > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > > How can I get LANG to be C when I login? > > I am running Fedora 35 > > TIA > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From borissh1983 at gmail.com Sun Jan 16 15:49:20 2022 From: borissh1983 at gmail.com (borissh1983 at gmail.com) Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2022 15:49:20 +0200 Subject: English Interface (Instead of Hebrew) [Solved] - Best Solution ? References: Message-ID: <1794569.9uyQMMW16Y@beast> Hi, Please avoid erasing plasma config files (fyi it should had been reseted post re login), if you are really using plasma on your pc: Open system settings, go to regional settings ->formats-> uncheck detailed settings and set your preferred region there (it would be a good idea to set "No Change" in each one of them prior to unchecking). Under Language set American English (or what ever dialect you prefer). I also suggest you to install SGJ^1 either as a package or one that you had compiled from source in a local container or directly into the system (just remember to use an a official repository) . FYI someone already had configured a proper LANG=en_IL.UTF-8 locale which might be useful for you. On Sunday, 16 January 2022 15:15:32 IST Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > So, I deleted ~/.config/plasma-localerc which contained: > > bash-5.1$ cat plasma-localerc.sav > [Formats] > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB.UTF-8 > LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8 > useDetailed=true > > [Translations] > LANGUAGE=en_US:he > > > A new plasma-localerc was (apparently) automatically generated somehow > which now contains: > > bash-5.1$ cat plasma-localerc > [Formats] > LANG=C > > /etc/locale.conf contains: > > bash-5.1$ cat locale.conf > LANG=C > > __________________________________ > > > Things seem to be working as desired, but I was wondering if this is the > best way to set things up so I get English interfaces, but I don't screw > anything else (Hebrew support in applications, etc). > > > On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 09:22, Aharon Schkolnik wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > When I run commands like gnome-disks I get a Hebrew interface. > > > > I would prefer English. > > > > If I run LANG=C gnome-disks, I get the English interface I want. > > > > So, I edited /etc/locale.conf and put in the line LANG=C > > > > if I source /etc/locale.conf, I get my English interface. > > > > However when I login, I still get the Hebrew interface > > > > env gives me: > > > > $env|grep -i lang > > LANGUAGE=en_US:he > > LANG=en_US.UTF-8 > > > > How can I get LANG to be C when I login? > > > > I am running Fedora 35 > > > > TIA > > > > > > > 1: sparkling grape juice -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I've primarily been an experimentalist, > but have gotten much more into software development and scientific > computing having long been the only guy in the lab who used Linux or > could do data analysis with more automation that copy-pasting in Excel. > I'm a long-time Linux user and FOSS enthusiast (first used Debian at > university in 2006) and I have been part of the Fedora Project since > 2010 where I have done some translations (German), and am just now > getting into packaging. > > I'm very much looking to continue drifting professionally and > learn/apply more lessons about good development practices to the > scientific software to which I contribute, since much of it is pretty > rough around the edges. > > Regards, > fuller > > -- > Mark E. Fuller, Ph.D. > HaShikma 19, Apt. 24 > Nesher 3681219, Israel > +972 (0)53-872-6579 > +49 (0)1577 1848188 > +1 401-214-4266 > mark.e.fuller at gmail.com > mark.e.fuller at gmx.de > fuller at stossrohr.net > @fuller:one.ems.host > https://www.stossrohr.net > PGP Fingerprint: 73F1 A30C BDF4 DB4B C75F FD0F D599 E76C FFCA BF60 > > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From uri at speedy.net Mon Jan 17 10:58:09 2022 From: uri at speedy.net (=?UTF-8?B?15DXldeo15k=?=) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 10:58:09 +0200 Subject: mail.log Message-ID: Hi, I want to check mail.log for how many emails are sent every day. The format of my mail.log is something like this: Jan 17 08:49:23 www .... (the rest of the log) I'm running a command such as: cat mail.log* |fgrep "status=sent (250 Ok"|awk '{print $1" "$2}'|sort -n|uniq -c And I receive the number of emails sent every day. But the date doesn't contain the year, the months are sorted alphabetically and the line of Jan 17 comes before the line of Jan 2. I would like to sort the lines according to the date order such as in yyyy-mm-dd and with including the year. How do I do it? ???? uri at speedy.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dotan at shavitos.com Mon Jan 17 11:14:45 2022 From: dotan at shavitos.com (Dotan Shavit) Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:14:45 +0200 Subject: mail.log In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: sed is your friend Something like: *sed "s/Jan/01/;s/Feb/02/"* ?On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 at 10:58, ??????? wrote:? > Hi, > > I want to check mail.log for how many emails are sent every day. The > format of my mail.log is something like this: > > Jan 17 08:49:23 www .... (the rest of the log) > > I'm running a command such as: > > cat mail.log* |fgrep "status=sent (250 Ok"|awk '{print $1" "$2}'|sort > -n|uniq -c > > And I receive the number of emails sent every day. But the date doesn't > contain the year, the months are sorted alphabetically and the line of Jan > 17 comes before the line of Jan 2. I would like to sort the lines according > to the date order such as in yyyy-mm-dd and with including the year. How do > I do it? > > ???? > uri at speedy.net > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The > format of my mail.log is something like this: > > Jan 17 08:49:23 www .... (the rest of the log) > > I'm running a command such as: > > cat mail.log* |fgrep "status=sent (250 Ok"|awk '{print $1" "$2}'|sort > -n|uniq -c > > And I receive the number of emails sent every day. But the date doesn't > contain the year, the months are sorted alphabetically and the line of Jan > 17 comes before the line of Jan 2. I would like to sort the lines according > to the date order such as in yyyy-mm-dd and with including the year. How do > I do it? > > ???? > uri at speedy.net > _______________________________________________ > Linux-il mailing list > Linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il > http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(I suspect there are such because you mention Grub.) --- Omer Zak On Fri, 2022-01-21 at 20:20 +0200, Meir Guttman wrote: > Hi Everyone! > > I am looking for such (paid) help since I encountered problems in > installing such! > The idea is to come over to my place (Or-Aqiva) and do it on > premises. > Knowledge of Grub 2.0 is also required... > Best regards, > Meir Guttman > Cell. +972-54-526 2264 -- "Prior to capitalism, the way people amassed great wealth was by looting, plundering and enslaving their fellow man. Capitalism made it possible to become wealthy by serving your fellow man." - Walter E. Williams My own blog is at https://tddpirate.zak.co.il/ My opinions, as expressed in this E-mail message, are mine alone. They do not represent the official policy of any organization with which I may be affiliated in any way. 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In the past we had a CB service that would had delivered it , but I didn't get any message on any of the CBs I'm subscribed to. fyi https://www.gov.il/he/departments/topics/earthquake-trua-alert-system/govil-landing-page[1] -------- [1] https://www.gov.il/he/departments/topics/earthquake-trua-alert-system/govil-landing-page -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From shlomo.solomon at gmail.com Tue Jan 25 19:51:51 2022 From: shlomo.solomon at gmail.com (Shlomo Solomon) Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2022 19:51:51 +0200 Subject: VCALENDAR reader Message-ID: <20220125195151.1d7a79bf@shlomo1.solomon> It always annoys me when people send me meeting invitations in VCAL format and "assume" I will be able to read and attend the meeting. I looked for an offline Linux VCAL reader and only found VERY old links to things that probably don't work. So I wrote a Python program to convert VCAL to human readable format. However, I do not have a large sample of VCAL files to test on. So if anyone would like to send me (privately - off the list) an invitation to a meeting or any VCAL files you can share for testing, that would be great. Once I'm sure it works, I'll be happy to share with anyone who's interested. Just as a sample, here's an "edited" version of the output of my program SUBJECT: Python class TIME: 25/01/2022 10:00 TO: 25/01/2022 11:00 ORGANIZER: Bob Dylan bob at dylan.com LOCATION: my office on the third floor ATTENDEES: Tom Jones MAIL: tom at jones.com * Shlomo MAIL: shlomo at abcd.com DETAILS: Bob Dylan is inviting you to a Python lesson -- Shlomo Solomon http://the-solomons.net Claws Mail 3.17.5 - KDE Plasma 5.18.5 - Kubuntu 20.04