Suggestion for a webmail application with good Hebrew Support

[Danny Lieberman]

good for you.   I disagree with the Google security statement and since my
cost is zero for spam free content and always up mail services for 4
business units I would say that zero is always more cost-effective than your
own time.

I can't argue the security point with you because there are always two
facets of security -
feeling secure and being secure (as Bruce Schneier pointed out a while back)

You feel more secure DIY (and are probably factually less secure)
I feel more secure with Google Apps (and are probably factually more secure)


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On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Jonathan Ben Avraham <yba at tkos.co.il>wrote:

> On Tue, 18 Aug 2009, Danny Lieberman wrote:
>
>  Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:41:38 +0300
>> From: Danny Lieberman <dannyl at software.co.il>
>> To: Jonathan Ben Avraham <yba at tkos.co.il>
>> Cc: ILUG <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>> Subject: Re: Suggestion for a webmail application with good Hebrew Support
>>
>> Yonatan
>>
>> what you're saying is that you are capable of managing security better
>> than
>> google.
>>
>> that is highly arguable.
>>
>
> No, there's no argument here. With Google you have no way of knowing or
> insuring the security of your content. For this application we can't rely on
> third-party storage. (period)
>
> We have been managing a number of servers for clients for many years, in a
> cost-effective manner, with minimal spam. Most are based on PostFix with our
> own spam filter that is somewhat more effective than Spam Assassin.
>
>  - yba
>
>
>  Our own experience is that we ran qmail/squirrel qmail/clamAV/Spam
>> Assassin
>> for 5 years thru 2007.  In 2007 - the amount of administration and image
>> spam made the entire exercise non cost-effective and a huge mail dos
>> attack
>> on a customer's setup changed my mind permanently.   I migrated 4 email
>> domains to Google Apps and I have not looked back since.
>>
>> From a system security perspective - I don't have to worry about patching,
>> ddos attacks and web defacing attacks.  from a data security/privacy
>> perspective - Google is better at managing personal data than you are,
>> hands
>> down.
>>
>>
>>
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