RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout

[Dov Grobgeld]

Btw, the drawing of the keyboard does not show the following additional
mappings that I use (don't remember if they are part of the original
.xkbmap):

Hebrew shift Z: RLM
Hebrew shift X: LRM

(Mnemonic: RLM is in the left side as the writing direction is to the right.
LRM is on the right side as the writing direction is to the right.)

With that I can write:

     xxx שלום!‏ xxx
     אאא hello! אאא
C++‎ שפת מחשב
Cheers,
Dov

2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham <yba at tkos.co.il>

> Hi Dov,
> I'd like to see a vote on this, or maybe just a discussion.
> Maybe there is a possibility of adopting this as a second standard.
> Anyone else have opinions about this?
>
>  - yba
>
>
> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Dov Grobgeld wrote:
>
>  Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 11:23:37 +0200
>> From: Dov Grobgeld <dov.grobgeld at gmail.com>
>> To: Jonathan Ben Avraham <yba at tkos.co.il>
>> Cc: Baruch Siach <baruch at tkos.co.il>, linux-il. <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>>
>> Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>
>> After all these years SI1452 still amazes me. Who would want to replace
>> the
>> Shift Numeral keys with nikud? In order to write "SHALOM!" (assuming that
>> capital characters are hebrew) you would then need to press [Language
>> shift][Shift][1][Language Shift] to get the final exclamation mark. Does
>> anyone know anyone who is actually doing this?
>>
>> That's why I suggested the alternative at
>>
>> http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/~dov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html<http://imagic.weizmann.ac.il/%7Edov/Hebrew/pango-hebrew.html>
>>
>> The idea is that it makes more sense to press the [Language shift] key
>> before typing latin characters than punctuation characters.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dov
>>
>> 2009/3/5 Jonathan Ben Avraham <yba at tkos.co.il>
>>
>>
>>> Guess that answers the question about RLM/LRM.
>>>
>>>  - yba
>>>
>>> On Thu, 5 Mar 2009, Baruch Siach wrote:
>>>
>>>  Date: Thu, 5 Mar 2009 09:04:16 +0200
>>>
>>>> From: Baruch Siach <baruch at tkos.co.il>
>>>> To: Jonathan Ben Avraham <yba at tkos.co.il>
>>>> Cc: Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>, linux-il. <
>>>> linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Subject: Re: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>>>
>>>> Hi Yonatan,
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:45:17AM +0200, Jonathan Ben Avraham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  What is "standard Hebrew keyboard layout" (disregarding aleph-tav)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> How about SI1452?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.qsm.co.il/NewHebrew/Key1452e.htm
>>>>
>>>> baruch
>>>>
>>>>  On Wed, 4 Mar 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 23:13:24 +0200
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: linux-il. <linux-il at cs.huji.ac.il>
>>>>>> Subject: RLM mark in standard Hebrew keyboard layout
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is the RLM (right to left mark) on the standard Hebrew keyboard
>>>>>> layout? I have googled and found that I can configure the Lyx layout
>>>>>> and then the RTM character is at Ctrl-Y, but can I make it Ctrl-{ like
>>>>>> in another popular OS?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, where is a list of the Shift characters in Lyx? I have found
>>>>>> some images that show where the nikud are, but none of them show the
>>>>>> RTM and LTM marks, and I suspect that they may be otherwise incomplete
>>>>>> as well. Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Suggestions for other alternative Hebrew layouts welcome!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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