ISP recomendation found

[Michael Ben-Nes]

I agree, the gamers package is not what I would expect from ISP in ideal
world.

But as my SSH connections are working much better when I use the Gamers
package, I have no other choice but to follow along. I prefer paying 20-30
nis more then working with a poor connection. My work output dramatically
change when the latency drops.


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2009/11/5 Justin <thelonecabbage at gmail.com>

> I'm a die hard capitalist, I believe you should go with whomever gives you
> the best service for the best price.
>
> But Bezeq and Netvision are huge companies, and yet they offer not one
> thing more than the small ISPs (those that are left).
>
> I remember being a customer of ACT.com and couldn't have been happier.  The
> moment they were bought by BBL service turned to crap.  Connections wouldn't
> stay up, VOiP quality declined, and service requests (what few I'd needed
> under ACT) took days instead of minuets.
>
> On top of all that ALL larger ISPs in Israel block ports and use traffic
> shaping.
>
> It's insane that after I've paid BBL for a connection of a 5Mb that I need
> to pay them another 20NIS for a gamers package so that VOiP can work (when
> VOiP could work as well on an unthrottled line 1/4 the size).  If they
> downgrade P2P traffic, I understand that.  I don't like it, but I understand
> it.  But VOiP is not bandwidth intensive standards, and doesn't degrade the
> network.  Gamers, even hard core gamers, aren't online enough that they
> saturate their slice of the bandwidth.  THE ONLY REASON to downgrade traffic
> for VOiP or gamers is to justify taking more money from them.
>
> The large ISPs have every opportunity to offer a superior product. They
> have efficiency of scale on their sides.  But at the end of the day small
> businesses are still offering a better service, because they don't have the
> marketing capacity to simply replace abused customers.
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Dotan Cohen <dotancohen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > Not trying to flame anyone, but Mickey Israeli IS one of the owners of
>> > Comm.net.il
>> > (see:
>> http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&searchtext=comm.net.il&do_search=Search
>> ),
>> > so comm.net.il is very small and one of the owners (or the owner). I'm
>> not
>> > saying it's a bad thing, but being tiny has some advantages and some
>> > disadvantages, for example: you're paying a very high price for your
>> > connection compared to what other people here on this list pays, but
>> > I definitely understand your reasons.
>>
>> I would definitely pay more for quality internet access. I am happily
>> paying 5₪ more per month to Bezeq Beilleumi per month than I was
>> paying to the theives known as Netvision. At Netvision they refused to
>> diagnose connection problems, blaming my Infrastructure (Bezeq). Now
>> they are suing me for not paying them when they refused to even check
>> the connection issues. They want our money, not our business. I would
>> rather give someone else even _more_ money who is interested in
>> keeping me happy as a lifetime customer.
>>
>> --
>> Dotan Cohen
>>
>> http://what-is-what.com
>> http://gibberish.co.il
>>
>
>
>
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