Announce: Hspell 1.1

[Dan Kenigsberg]

Who said anything about *few* rules? They are many, and are complex, and have
gazillion of exceptions. But they exist, and putting them into effect in
hspell's inflection scripts is doable, albeit requiring a lot of meticulous
work. The classical references for niqqud are Luah HaShemot HaShalem and Luah
HaP`alim HaShalem by Shaul Bakali. These tables include all the rules and all
the exceptions needed to add the correct niqqud to Hebrew words.

On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 02:02:21AM +0200, Ely Levy wrote:
> I can only talk from my own experience, I couldn't find any good source for
> rules about nikud and grammar in a simple form.
> I did find some gpled work list with nikud, and I think I even talked to the
> people in mila.
> But no one could provide that few rules you are talking about.
> (And I'm still confused about the difference between old and modern
> grammar/nikud...)
> 
> Ely
> 
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Nadav Har'El <nyh at math.technion.ac.il>wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Dec 31, 2009, E L wrote about "Re: Announce: Hspell 1.1":
> > > I think the main problem is what need to be done and not the man power to
> > > program it.
> > > If someone know of what are the rules grammar or nikud checkers should
> > > follow I'm sure it won't be a big
> > > deal programing one
> >
> > I beg to differ.
> >
> > First of all, most of the needed knowledge already exists, published in
> > numerous papers and books, and demonstrated by several pieces of commercial
> > software. One doesn't need to come with advanced knowledge of the topic,
> > any more than I had to be some spell-checking expert before I started
> > Hspell.
> > All one needs is a willingness to learn, and of course the resourcefulness
> > to put it into good use.
> >
> > Second, while the work on Hspell had a lot of very interesting theoretical
> > sides and problems to solve (in linguistics, language, compression, etc.),
> > most of the work was actually the mundane and almost endless task of making
> > lists of words (a task which you can see, still isn't done 10 years after
> > starting the project). For niqqud checking, there is also a lot of similar
> > mundane work that needs to be done (writing the right niqqud for each
> > word),
> > and that takes a lot of time.
> > For grammar checking, it depends what you call grammar: If you also want
> > to include semantics, and not just grammar - like Prof. Uzzi Ornan did in
> > his text-to-speech and niqqud research (and product) - there's also tons
> > of work that needs to be done on creating classes of nouns, listing
> > arguments
> > of verbs, and so on. I guess you can start with just grammar, though, and
> > in this case, you're right - it should be doable without too much data
> > collection - so maybe this is indeed a good project to start with.
> >
> > This is all very interesting work. Unfortunately, I do not see myself
> > starting it in the near future. If anyone is interested in taking a shot
> > at it, I'd love to advise - please contact me and/or Dan privately.
> >
> > Nadav.
> >
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