Fwd: Finally - A RMS talk in Tel-Aviv. Including details

[Mordecha Behar]

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From: Mordecha Behar <mordecha.behar at mail.huji.ac.il>
Date: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: Finally - A RMS talk in Tel-Aviv. Including details
To: Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir at cohens.org.il>




On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Tzafrir Cohen <tzafrir at cohens.org.il>wrote:

> Written off-list,
>
> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 08:26:39PM +0300, Mordecha Behar wrote:
> > 2011/7/17 Dima (Dan) Yasny <dyasny at gmail.com>
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:46 PM, Orr Dunkelman <
> orr.dunkelman at gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Michael Shiloh
> > >> <michaelshiloh1010 at gmail.com> >> To be more general, it is unheard of
> > >> for a prospective guest to set
> > >> >> political conditions for his hosts. Aside of any other aspects, the
> man
> > >> >> is a boor, and should have been ignored.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm not sure that's true. Haven't musicians and other performers
> used
> > >> their
> > >> > platform as a way to express agreement or disagreement with
> particular
> > >> > political positions for ages?
> > >> >
> > >> > Michael
> > >>
> > >> It is very rare in computer science to mix politics and work.
> > >> Actually, this is true for most exact sciences.
> > >>
> > >> As for RMS, who is an advocate of freedom of rights, he has just
> > >> agreed to accept money (travel costs) in exchange for giving away his
> > >> freedom of speech.
> > >> Tz'e Wolmad...
> > >>
> > >>
> > > /me don't see what the argument is about. I'll simply vote against
> RMS's
> > > and his politically inclined friends bs with my feet by _not_ going.
> End of
> > > story
> > >
> > >
> > Yes, there is that.
> > But thanks to the law passed last week we can also take affirmative
> action.
> > I don't think that suing RMS or the FSF will be a good idea, or even
> > feasible (IANAL and I'm pretty sure that this law doesn't hold for
> > people/groups from abroad) but we might be able to sue the group
> financing
> > his trip.
> > Again, I'm not sure that that's even a good idea. But it is possible.
>
> While I find RMS's actions silly and damaging, I will take no part in
> such an action. I might even consider donating that group some money to
> cover their expences in case you actually go through with your actions.
>
> I'm for free speach here.
>
> Now, count to 10, relax a bit, read things through, and don't follow up
> on a flame fest.
>
>
Hey, I'm not saying we *should* sue, I'm just saying it's an option. And not
a good one.
We will alienate ourselves in the worldwide community of open software, and
probably burn several bridges which will be very hard to rebuild.
I too resent the whole idea of mixing computer science and politics. It
makes the whole thing stink like unwashed feet.
I'm just a little disappointed that the whole saga unraveled like this. I
had higher opinions of RMS before this.


> Oh, and: GetTheFacts: http://stallmanfacts.com/ .
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
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