Linux is ready for the desktop!

[Ely Levy]

It's just that the desktop is not ready for Linux:P
Nadav, you are welcome to come visit here at huji and I'll show you all the
1000000 of problems we have using linux.

Ely


On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 11:26 AM, Oleg Goldshmidt <pub at goldshmidt.org>wrote:

> > Well, if Fedora 15 wasn't that intertwined with NetworkManager which
> tried
> > to do all of this automatically, maybe this is what I would have done.
> > But the current situation is that ordinary non-root users are not
> expected
> > to take network interfaces up and down. Or, if they are, I'm not sure how
> > this is supposed to work. Maybe you can tell me.
>
> You can configure any interface as user-controlled. In the
> /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 and similar files the line
> is "USERCTL=yes". If you start system-config-network and open the edit
> GUI on an interface you'll see the corresponding checkbox. It is not
> clear to me if this option is dependent on NM in any way - I suspect
> it may be.
>
> > All a newbie wants is somebody who'll
> > tell him, step by step, what to do. And the sad fact is that for Windows
> > he can get that help from many places - his ISP, the product's official
> site,
> > and so on - but for Linux it's harder to get this advice.
>
> In my mind "Linux is not ready for desktop" and "ISP Support are not
> good at supporting newbies on Linux" are two different things though.
> It does look to me like you are mostly making this second statement,
> which I quite agree with. it is a fair statement that "readiness"
> implies a suitable environment, and the Support environment in Israel
> is not quite suitable for complete newbies on Linux.
>
> As I mentioned, however, watching my parents and their friends (older
> generation) on Windows I'd argue that Windows is "not ready" by
> exactly the same token. It is just as darn difficult, and it does
> require a savvy technical help on a regular basis.
>
> --
> Oleg Goldshmidt | oleg at goldshmidt.org
>
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