ISP with native ipv6 in isarael

[Shachar Shemesh]

On 12/01/16 18:05, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote:
>
> Thank you. Will try.
>
I did try.

On the plus side: They give you a real address. In fact, they give you
2^64 real addresses. Bear in mind, however, that they do not give you a
fixed address. You will get a different address range every time you
connect. When I asked, a fixed IPv6 address range costed as much as a
fixed IPv4, which makes zero sense, but there you have it.

To my surprise, this worked rather well. Whenever the router (I was
using openwrt) reconnected, it somehow managed to provoke all the
clients to get a new address. The clients did not give up the old
addresses, so connections inside the network were not disconnected due
to this change. I guess this means you cannot connect P2P to another
client that resides on an address you have ever owned, but that seems a
minor problem.

Down sides:
You are still going to be using NAT. Since the IPv6 support in Israel is
virtually non-existent, which means you will be using your IPv4 address
quite a lot. You only get one of those.

I hope you realize that having NAT means that outside elements don't
know which precise machine inside your network they are talking to. It
seems, from your question, that you consider this a good thing, but I
wanted to make sure you are aware of it.

Their supports leaves something to be desired. Very long waiting times,
it may take them 48 hours to call you back if you decide not to wait,
and most of their technicians don't know how to configure IPv6. Some
don't even know it exists. I will qualify this point by saying I was
their customer, briefly, soon after their launch. It is possible this
point has, since, improved.

In the end, when an upgrade to 40Mb/s left me without internet for a
week pending a (failed) attempt to diagnose it, including an X-Fone
technician sending me to the modem's maker to get a firmware upgrade he
said might help, and that maker brushing me off (it was the modem they
were subsidizing for me, so I did hold them partially responsible), I
decided that enough was enough, and went to Nezeq for a few months. I'm
now on Cellcom triple.

It is also worth noting that on Cellcom triple, the technician is
mandatory (and costs around 300nis). He had to work quite hard to get
their modem to sync in VDSL, going to the floor Bezeq switch several
times. After he left, I connected my modem and it synced, so it's
obvious that the problem was, indeed, a physical problem with my house's
infrastructure. Still, a week without internet is too long.

Bottom line, now that I know VDSL works, I might give them another go,
once they offer a phone as well. For the time being, I'm happy with
where I am (I've only moved a week ago).

Shachar

> On Jan 12, 2016 15:59, "Yuval Adam" <yuval at y3xz.com
> <mailto:yuval at y3xz.com>> wrote:
>
>     018 Xphone
>     AFAIK they are the only ISP that supports native ipv6 on
>     non-commercial
>     uplinks
>
>
>     On 01/12/2016 03:57 PM, Evgeniy Ginzburg wrote:
>     > Hi all.
>     > Do we have one or two??
>     > Want to get rid of NAT (partially).
>     >
>     > BR, Evgeniy.
>     >
>     > --
>     > So long, and thanks for all the fish.
>     >
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