Where to buy a Linux based desktop in Israel?

[Shlomi Fish]

Hi Geoffrey,

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 5:51 PM Geoffrey Mendelson <
geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:

> i went to the trouble of signing into one of my linux servers and reading
> the link.
>
> It was your telling me not to talk about how RMS said as president of the
> FSF that he was going to honor the Palestinian boycott of Israel. It had
> nothing to do with linux mint.
>
>
That link was to an archived Linux-IL post by Jeremy Hoyland (not by me)
and it reads:

«

Jeremy Hoyland
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il&q=from:%22Jeremy+Hoyland%22>
Mon,
20 Nov 2017 05:10:06 -0800
<https://www.mail-archive.com/search?l=linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il&q=date:20171120>

RMS was bullied into canceling his Israeli University talks by his (paying)
Palestinian hosts. He explains here:

http://stallman.org/articles/palestine-trip.html

Can we PLEASE stop playing politics now? This is NOT the right forum, and
we're none of us any good at it. RMS himself is a great example.

J.

[full disclosure; I use and enjoy Linux Mint, just as I enjoy the music of
Richard Wagner. Bad people can create good things]

»

So it has everything to do with Linux Mint, and the tiresome argument that
it should be avoided just because one of its lead developers may hold
antisemitic views.

Totally irrelevant.
>
> Geoff.
>
> As a side note, RMS jeapordized the FSF, project GNU, and pissed off Larry
> Ellison, who instead of giving Open Office to the FSF gave it to the Apache
> Foundation.
>
>
This is discussed in Tzafrir's reply which was quoted in the reply to it in
this exact link:

https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html

I didn't write it either, but it seems to me that his doubts have some
merit.

--
> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel
> On May 12, 2020, 10:23 AM +0300, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com>, wrote:
>
> I have now tested all three links using chromium-browser and the "lynx"
> browser on fedora and they all open fine in both browsers (as well as
> firefox). Something is broken on your end, and I have no control on
> proprietary browsers.
>
> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:16 AM Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 10:05 AM Geoffrey Mendelson <
>> geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The link wont open. I tried chrome and safari.
>>>
>>>
>> Which link? There were several in my original email. For the record, they
>> all open fine in firefox on fedora 32 x64.
>>
>> Regarding Safari, see
>> https://apple.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/2251253/is-safari-the-new-internet-explorer/
>> . Chrome is proprietary too (as opposed to chromium). Are you on an Apple
>> iDevice?
>>
>>
>>> Why not do some actual reasearch and look up the request that no one
>>> affiliated with the IDF use Linux Mint due to their trearment of the
>>> palestinians? Or his sorry, I pissed of the people that rule the world
>>> appology?
>>>
>>> Dont take my word for it, you can find them in the internet archive.
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel
>>> On May 12, 2020, 9:44 AM +0300, Shlomi Fish <shlomif at gmail.com>, wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Geoffrey!
>>>
>>> Please see
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-il@cs.huji.ac.il/msg66441.html and
>>> let's drop the "antisemitism" argument once and for all.
>>>
>>> That put aside there are other distributions that should hopefully be
>>> able to recognise and utilise most commodity hardware:
>>>
>>> * https://distrowatch.com/
>>>
>>> * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:00 AM Geoffrey Mendelson <
>>> geoffreymendelson at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Support antisemitism. Use Linux Mint.
>>>>
>>>> Geoff
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Geoffrey S. Mendelson, N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379 Jerusalem, Israel
>>>> On May 12, 2020, 3:09 AM +0300, Shay Gover <govershay at gmail.com>,
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Why not install yourself? use mint distro.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 11, 2020, 22:49 Dimid Duchovny <dimidd at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking to buy a desktop computer with Linux pre-installed for a
>>>>> couple of senior citizens. I'd usually buy a generic PC and install myself,
>>>>> but now due to the coronavirus that's not an option.
>>>>> The main uses are web browsing and skype/zoom. Looking for a stable
>>>>> distro and long term support (e.g. the latest Ubuntu LTS). The hardware
>>>>> needs to work out-of-the-box.
>>>>> Specification wish list:
>>>>> 512GB SSD
>>>>> 16GB RAM
>>>>>
>>>>
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