Hebrew Under crossover

Hebrew Under crossover

Aharon Schkolnik aschkolnik at gmail.com
Tue Mar 31 13:17:18 IDT 2009


On Tuesday 31 March 2009, Micha Feigin wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 11:21:42 +0300
>
> Aharon Schkolnik <aschkolnik at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks for the response.
> > Comments in-line.
> >
> > On Monday 30 March 2009, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > > Just to be clear - what I need is a way to edit MS mixed English and
> > > > Hebrew word documents which will be read by Windows users. At the
> > > > monent the only way I can do that is by booting into XP ;-(
> > >
> > > If you are creating the documents and others are reading, then there
> > > are two solutions:
> > >
> > > 1) Open Office 3.0 handles MS Office documents <= 2003 in a reasonable
> > > manner. If you are producing the documents for distribution, then
> > > expect no problems (but don't be mad at me if there are). Sometime
> > > receiving documents for MS Office users is not ideal, but creating
> > > them is fine.
> >
> > Boy, I wish this were true. First, I have found that Open Office has a
> > very difficult time with mixed Hebrew and English. Second, I have found
> > that a mixed Hebrew/English document created with Open Office will get
> > messed up when viewed with MS Word.
> >
> > Have others had a different experience ?
>
> Very different. Math is a complete no go, hebrew and english is a mess,
> mixed hebrew/english documents and numbers are rarely imported properly,
> enumerations are messed up completely and changing the document language to
> hebrew to match the original permutes tab aligned ellements

Guess  you'd agree that Open Office is not a good solution !

>
> > > 2) Again, use OOo 3.0 but instead of distributing DOC files,
> > > distribute PDF files. DOC files are not meant for distributing, their
> > > viewer application is buggy and rarely used (users will likely open
> > > the documents in an editor, ie, MS Word) and has other problems.
> >
> > No, DOC format is a requirement.
> >
> > > If you need to recieve and colaborate with MS Windows users, you have
> > > two options:
> > >
> > > 1) Buy MS Windows and MS Office and use them. I actually like
> > > Microsoft's office suit, but I hate their operating systems!
> >
> > I have both. I just don't want to have to boot into Windows to be able to
> > do what I need to do.
> >
> > > 2) Convince your collaborators to use Open Office. This is suprisingly
> > > easy, many people are willing to get rid of MS Office. Although I
> > > personally prefer MS Office and use OOo out of necessity (Linux user),
> > > I find that most people prefer OOo for some reason, once they see it.
> > > Go figure.
>
> Tried using personally but sad to say it's incredibly unstable in terms of
> styles and I still haven't managed to find out how to change the
> headers/footers mid way through the document, something that is very easy
> with word.
>
> On the other hand I'm using lyx almost exclusively so who am I to talk ...
>
> > Sorry to say, not up to me.
>
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